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Old 01-18-2013, 17:22   #1
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Oklahoma Threatens Five Years Imprisonment for Federal Gun Grabbers

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The "Oklahoma 2nd Amendment Preservation Act" is now working its way through the Oklahoma legislature.

Introduced by state senator Nathan Dahm, this legislation puts Oklahoma shoulder-to-shoulder with Wyoming and Texas by putting federal gun-grabbers in check.

The language of the legislation is clear: "Federal acts, laws, orders, rules, regulations, bans or registration requirements regarding firearms constitute an infringement on the individual right [to keep and bear arms] in the Constitution of the United States...and are hereby declared to be invalid in the State of Oklahoma."

The legislation mentions the "intent" of America's "Founders" and the Constitution's "ratifiers," and sets forth the punishment for trying to enforce new gun control measures........
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...l-Gun-Grabbers
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Old 01-18-2013, 17:31   #2
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I understand Oklahoma also instituted drug testing for social assistance eligibility (or at least is in the process). I think I'm moving to Oklahoma.


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Old 01-18-2013, 17:39   #3
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I understand Oklahoma also instituted drug testing for social assistance eligibility (or at least is in the process). I think I'm moving to Oklahoma.


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Well, it's about as effective as gun control is, but I appreciate the gesture anyways.
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Old 01-18-2013, 17:55   #4
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States rights seems to be on the rise...good
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Old 01-18-2013, 18:07   #5
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Splintering...but maybe that is needed at this point. There were arguments made against a centralized Federal government long ago...looks like maybe the opponents to such a system had a really good point!
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Old 01-18-2013, 19:50   #6
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Does this mean Oklahoma will protect me from federal arrest/prosecution for violations of the 1934 or 1968 federal gun acts?

This kind of overly broad crap is just political stuntery.
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Old 01-18-2013, 19:56   #7
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I agree it is a good gesture of support. We need all the financial, media and political support we can get.
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Old 01-18-2013, 21:29   #8
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Well, it's about as effective as gun control is, but I appreciate the gesture anyways.
I dont follow... How is it ineffective?
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Old 01-18-2013, 21:40   #9
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Does this mean Oklahoma will protect me from federal arrest/prosecution for violations of the 1934 or 1968 federal gun acts?

This kind of overly broad crap is just political stuntery.
Agreed. I understand folks appreciating the sentiment but most likely a case of symbolism over substance Besides what would state authorities do when the FBI or other federal agency showed up demanding the arrested individuals' release? Continue to be defiant and at some point the National Guard shows up. What then?
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Does this mean Oklahoma will protect me from federal arrest/prosecution for violations of the 1934 or 1968 federal gun acts?

This kind of overly broad crap is just political stuntery.
Typically they have a Start date in the bill.

for instance, Wyoming has anylaw passed on or after 1 January 2013 that effects semi-autos or magazines will not be enforced..and any fed who tries to enforce it will be subject to 2-5 yrs in jail and upto 5000$ fine.
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I dont follow... How is it ineffective?
"Hey man, pee in this cup for me. I have a drug test later."

There are dozens of ways around the drug tests. Often times, it's a huge waste of money and nobody gets "caught" because nobody is dumb enough to risk their free money when all they have to do is get their friend to give them a sample.
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Bravo, Oklahoma!
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Old 01-19-2013, 08:56   #13
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Does this mean Oklahoma will protect me from federal arrest/prosecution for violations of the 1934 or 1968 federal gun acts?

This kind of overly broad crap is just political stuntery.
Every time I write my congressmen about an upcoming bill, I ask them to offer an amendment that would repeal both of those acts.
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"Hey man, pee in this cup for me. I have a drug test later."

There are dozens of ways around the drug tests. Often times, it's a huge waste of money and nobody gets "caught" because nobody is dumb enough to risk their free money when all they have to do is get their friend to give them a sample.
I've done piss tests where the administrator stands right over me, damn near holding my johnson for me. It seems there's little way to cheat when they take it seriously and dont allow for cheating.

But there's also blood and hair folical testing too. If they were testing hundreds of thousands of people, I imagive they could also figure a way to streamline the testing procedure to bring the cost down and speed up the return of results.

I'm not saying it's fool-proof, but I garuntee there would be a massive reduction on social assistance costs with something like this in place. Progress is progress.
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I've done piss tests where the administrator stands right over me, damn near holding my johnson for me. It seems there's little way to cheat when they take it seriously and dont allow for cheating.

But there's also blood and hair folical testing too. If they were testing hundreds of thousands of people, I imagive they could also figure a way to streamline the testing procedure to bring the cost down and speed up the return of results.

I'm not saying it's fool-proof, but I garuntee there would be a massive reduction on social assistance costs with something like this in place. Progress is progress.
They can stand over you all they want to and it's still simple to cheat.

http://www.thewhizzinator.com/

All the other tests are great, but expensive, even if they are getting a bulk discount. I think they tried them in another part of the state (Nashville) for a little while but said it was counter productive because they weren't catching anybody. I remember seeing that on the news

They need to get serious and find a way to crack down on taxpayer money being spent on somebody else's fix.
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