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Old 01-20-2013, 20:06   #76
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Somehow I was under the impression that NY had allowed mags as large as 30 rounds to be grandfathered in the past. Did he get charged with owning a nongrandfathered mag?
This would make me wonder how they would know for sure if it was grandfathered or not since there is no date stamping on surplus mags like he is charged with. A tapco mag sure it would be pretty obvious but a surplus mag no way to tell since most of them were made before 1994.
That I can't answer. Google the Middletown Record, it is in it's archives, maybe 6-8 months ago, in the town of Monticello, NY.
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Old 01-20-2013, 20:17   #77
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How does the law read? If it say magazine then I guess the cylinder of the revolver would not be illegal?
Maybe the way to get around the 7 round law and carry "high capacity
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Old 01-20-2013, 20:23   #78
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That I can't answer. Google the Middletown Record, it is in it's archives, maybe 6-8 months ago, in the town of Monticello, NY.

found it and it does not say either way
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Published: 9:54 AM - 03/15/12
Last updated: 10:00 AM - 03/15/12
MONTICELLO - Police recovered an assault rifle and illegal magazines and charged a Monticello man with two felonies after responding Tuesday to a shots fired call off Park Avenue in the village.
Elliot Hernandez, 35, was charged with two counts of felony possession of a weapon, after police found him and two other men around 5:45 p.m. in a fenced property belonging to the water department. People had reported hearing several shots fired in the area.
Police recovered a .30 caliber semi-automatic assault weapon with a pistol grip, collapsing stock and a 10-round detachable magazine. It met the criteria for an illegal assault weapon, Acting Chief Mark Johnstone said. Police also recovered a second rifle with two illegal 30-round large capacity magazines chambered for .308 caliber bullets. Hernandez, Tieri Gilmore, 30, and Miguel Custodio, 28, were all charged with misdemeanor criminal trespass.
Hernandez was also charged with a violation in the discharge of a weapon. He was taken to the Sullivan County Jail on $3,000 cash bail.
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Old 01-20-2013, 20:24   #79
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NYC....

I think John Carpenter was a visionary in regards to NYC...

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Hopefully he was abiding by the seven round limit but I think not.
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Old 01-20-2013, 21:05   #81
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If all I could carry was 7+1 the choice would be easy. A full size or semi-compact 1911 (possible alloy frame) with 3 seven round magazines in .45 ACP.

The only real "advantage" to 9mm or 40 S&W is increased magazine capacity. When you remove that advantage it's time to go big (45) or go home. A glock single stack works too for those not wanting (or allowed) to carry cocked and locked.

A revolver is a little too slow to reload under stress but makes an excellent NY reload.
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Old 01-20-2013, 21:08   #82
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A pair of em!

Whatever happened to that beast, I think I remember the Govt putting the hammer down on it right?
To be honest, I'm not 100% sure how it was left. I think the BATFE called it at first an SBS than left it as a AOW. Not sure...but I don't think it meets the requirements to be a SBS. Now I'm curious....




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Old 01-20-2013, 22:30   #83
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So now with our 7 round limit in NY, what would you chose for carry? Stick with what you've carried before and an extra low cap mag? Go back to a revolver with speed loaders or moon clips? What would you chose?

I've carried a Glock 30 for years. Now I'm thinking I may go to a S&W 620 or 625.


And yes I know a bunch of you will suggest moving....... Not an option for many of us......
That's easy. Seven rounds then a slow reload!

Its history fits our current political climate as well.
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Old 01-20-2013, 22:50   #84
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That's easy. Seven rounds then a slow reload!

Its history fits our current political climate as well.
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That's pretty funny. I do have a collection fo Commie guns....
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:02   #85
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Just like their forefathers were in Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia.

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Old 01-21-2013, 07:56   #86
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:03   #87
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So, do you have to download 8 shot revolvers to?
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:52   #88
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Hitler was a socialist?
The Nazi Party was the National Socialist German Workers' Party......

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Old 01-21-2013, 09:09   #89
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“It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine (1737-1809), American Revolutionary, US Founding Father and Author


“When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:11   #90
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So, do you have to download 8 shot revolvers to?
No one knows.

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Old 01-21-2013, 09:16   #91
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Just move out of that GD state...I did purposely(well one of the top 2 reasons) because of their crap laws and crap taxes. I moved 1 state down and its all good at least so far. Have open carry(its even open carry no permit needed), CC, Castle Doctrine/law, less taxes...if the same thing happened here in PA id also move OUT of this state and find one that actually is 2A friendly.. 2A does not "rule" my life but the ability to protect my family and myself IS way,way up on the list.
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:18   #92
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So, do you have to download 8 shot revolvers to?
gotta carry them like the old west...1 chamber empty lol what s POS state and I was born and raised in that state and lived there for 23 years till I wised up and moved OUT.
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I honestly HAVE been following this thread though as even though I dont live in NY(Western NY about a hour south of Buffalo to be more specific) any more I still regularly TRAVEL AND VISIT there as my whole family and Wifes whole family and all out friends still live in NYS...And I always CC when I go from PA to NY so I like to see what im gonna have to CC next time I go up..im guessing either my Taurus CH85 Snubby OR I guess I could use the Ruger SR9c with the 10 rounder downloaded to 7 from what ive read...
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So now with our 7 round limit in NY, what would you chose for carry? Stick with what you've carried before and an extra low cap mag? Go back to a revolver with speed loaders or moon clips? What would you chose?

I've carried a Glock 30 for years. Now I'm thinking I may go to a S&W 620 or 625.


And yes I know a bunch of you will suggest moving....... Not an option for many of us......
I know what I would choose to carry.......my ass clean out of that commie state.

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Old 01-21-2013, 09:39   #95
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Once the law goes in to effect you will only be allowed more then 7 rounds in a mag at a shooting range that is holding an NRA sanctioned event.

http://www.governor.ny.gov/2013/gun-reforms-faq

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Old 01-21-2013, 10:59   #96
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This new law is equally stupid and ineffective as this.....In the interest of public safety you will be allowed to have 10 beers in your fridge but you are only allowed to drink 7 of them.

We have the same level of stupidity here in California. Fire all the politicians and start over!
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I honestly HAVE been following this thread though as even though I dont live in NY(Western NY about a hour south of Buffalo to be more specific) any more I still regularly TRAVEL AND VISIT there as my whole family and Wifes whole family and all out friends still live in NYS...And I always CC when I go from PA to NY so I like to see what im gonna have to CC next time I go up..im guessing either my Taurus CH85 Snubby OR I guess I could use the Ruger SR9c with the 10 rounder downloaded to 7 from what ive read...
You might not want to answer, and I probably misread your post to begin with, but how do you carry in NY if you no longer live in NY?

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you might not want to answer, and i probably misread your post to begin with, but how do you carry in ny if you no longer live in ny?

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I'd consider PA if I could carry in NY. As it is, by living in NY, I can carry in PA with my out of state permit

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I would think (and i could very well be wrong) that revolvers might not be included in this mess because they do not have a magazine?

If so I wonder what company could produce a 10 round .357 or .38. I would bet S&W could come up with something.
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