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Old 01-26-2013, 19:23   #26
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Five shots rested at 50 yards; low shot was my error.

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Old 01-27-2013, 15:31   #27
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I have a G21 Gen4 and it is my "under the bed gun" and it is as just as accurate of any Glock I own. If I was active again and on patrol I would want the G21 gen4. Carryring 14 flying ashtrays is the way to go.
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Old 01-27-2013, 16:29   #28
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The accuracy of my Gen4 G21 far surpasses my abilities as a shooter, that's for certain.
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Old 01-28-2013, 13:42   #29
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I have a G21 Gen4 and it is my "under the bed gun" and it is as just as accurate of any Glock I own. If I was active again and on patrol I would want the G21 gen4. Carryring 14 flying ashtrays is the way to go.
These are great for carry:
http://www.underwoodammo.com/45super...ntboxof50.aspx

For LEO's, these look nice:
http://www.underwoodammo.com/45super...ntboxof50.aspx
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Old 01-28-2013, 19:05   #30
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My gen 4 is very accurate, I just wish that any innacuracy problems were the gun but regretably they are all on me. It is better than me.
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Old 01-28-2013, 21:11   #31
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Is is safe to shoot 45 Super in the Glock 21? Can it shorten the life of the gun?

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Old 01-28-2013, 21:39   #32
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Is is safe to shoot 45 Super in the Glock 21? Can it shorten the life of the gun?
Perfectly safe and reasonable wear and tear with a stronger recoil spring of at least 21 lb or 22 lb. If you intend to reload the .45 Super brass, an aftermarket barrel with better chamber support is worthwhile for best results.

Whether it's prudent and reasonable to load .45 Super for urban CCW is another question. For me, the answer is definitely no. Precisely measure split times on follow-up shots with .45ACP vs .45ACP +P vs .45 Super and you'll have your answer. Ask Mas Ayoob about .45 Super for CCW/HD in the Glock Talk GATE Self-Defense Forum to get some expert advice.

I load .45 Super in a G30SF only for woods carry where dangerous critters aren't expected in the area. The pistol is in .460 Rowland or 10mm config for hikes and camping in the habitat of more dangerous game. One of my pistol instructors hunts deer successfully using his hand-loaded .45 Super ammo and a Glock 21 pistol with 6-inch barrel.
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Old 01-28-2013, 23:43   #33
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I dumped the 21 for a HK and never looked back.

The Glock was too thick and clunky and it wasn't very accurate in my hands. I'm not saying it's not a accurate gun because I've seen people print some nice size groups with it. It just didn't work for me.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:36   #34
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With hand loads my 21SF can chew one ragged hole at 21 feet....
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:54   #35
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NEOH: do you have problems with your HK going randomly back to double action when it gets a little dirty? I didn't care for that about the USP.

When I shot competitively I'd clean my G21 about every 1,000 rounds. Had zero issues in the 20 years of ownership.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:33   #36
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The Glock was too thick and clunky and it wasn't very accurate in my hands. I'm not saying it's not a accurate gun because I've seen people print some nice size groups with it. It just didn't work for me.
That's an important post in that the G21, it the right hands, does well. In the wrong sized hands, not so well. I would be remiss if I didn't make it clear that in my hands (bigger), I do well and get good groups. However, put a M&P .45 in my hands and I do a shade better.

That being said, much easier to work on my Glock at the armorer level.
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Old 01-30-2013, 14:08   #37
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My 21SF is VERY accurate...One of my best shooters..I would NEVER sell this gun....ever
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Old 01-30-2013, 16:32   #38
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G21 Gen3 here, 100% stock except for the Meprolights that I installed.
The most accurate Glock that I own.
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Old 01-30-2013, 19:11   #39
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I have an early Gen 3 G21 with Glock night sights. It is extremely accurate and has never given me any issues or problems.
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:34   #40
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When I shot competitively I'd clean my G21 about every 1,000 rounds. Had zero issues in the 20 years of ownership.
That's about how often I clean my range pistols. I'll clean my carry pistols every 2-400 rds. or about every other time I train with them. Once I stopped shooting WWB, my guns don't get super filthy anymore.



Since grip/hand size was brought up there somewhere, something I noticed the other day: G4 21 slides into and out of a custom leather holster with retension screw and rubber grommet I have made for 20/21 easier than my G3 20SF. In fact it also fits much better in a cheap uncle Mikes kydex holster made for the 20/21. There has to be some minute difference in frame width since that is what the holster really holds to, not the grip or slide. Could be just the trigger-guard but my guess is both or the frame.
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Old 01-31-2013, 17:12   #41
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Extremely accurate. In my experience the most accurate glocks I have shot.
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Old 01-31-2013, 20:29   #42
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IMHO this is the best video posted on handgun accuracy, and just happens to use a Glock 21 as an example.

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Old 01-31-2013, 21:44   #43
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Great video by Hickock. Thanks for putting it up; I hadn't seen it before. Most helpful.

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IMHO this is the best video posted on handgun accuracy, and just happens to use a Glock 21 as an example.

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Old 01-31-2013, 22:12   #44
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My G21 is plenty accurate thats for sure! However, I think that some of the people here need to think about competition. I shoot bullseye league and what with the number of you that can shoot 1.5 or sub 1 inch groups at 25 with the G21 all the time, you should be competing!


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I have a G21 Gen4 and it is my "under the bed gun" and it is as just as accurate of any Glock I own. If I was active again and on patrol I would want the G21 gen4. Carryring 14 flying ashtrays is the way to go.
Where in the world are you finding the "flying ashtrays" at? Speer hasnt sold that bullet in quite a while. Unless you were referring to the 200gr Gold Dot, which is not the flying ashtray.
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Old 01-31-2013, 22:29   #45
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My 21SF is VERY accurate...One of my best shooters..I would NEVER sell this gun....ever
I second this. Love it.
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Old 01-31-2013, 22:44   #46
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Gen 2 G21.
Fifty rounds banged away offhand at twenty five yards.

I think the gun is capable, if only I could hold line up the sights with the target.

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Old 01-31-2013, 22:50   #47
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Great video by Hickock. Thanks for putting it up; I hadn't seen it before. Most helpful.
Welcome, he does seem to have good insights on many firearm topics.
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Old 02-01-2013, 04:40   #48
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I don't usually go off the bench for my G21, but it is absolutely, irrepressibly accurate. I do the "chase the hole" drill, which is where I shoot a bullet hole and try to shoot the rest of the bullets into that hole. This is from probably 40' and every bullet touches. Every. Last. Bullet. I've been shooting it so much that it's becoming more accurate in my hands than my brother Kimber Custom (Blasphemy you say!). Also, I'm 5'9 and 155 lbs. I don't have huge hands, but it fits me very well and is such a soft shooting gun. I recommend the G21 to any and everybody looking for a .45
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Old 02-01-2013, 06:52   #49
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My 21 is very combat accurate but ive never put it on a bench. I know for a fact not as accurate as my 1911 and i can shoot my friends glock 30 just as accurate as my 21. If something bad went down id rather have the 21 than any pistol i own. First chance i get i'll put it on the bench with my reloads and some factory loads just to see how accurate i can shoot it.
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:17   #50
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Gen 2 G21.
Fifty rounds banged away offhand at twenty five yards.

I think the gun is capable, if only I could hold line up the sights with the target.

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There ain't damn thing wrong with that, particularly considering its a 50 round group. Good show.
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