GlockTalk.com
Home Forums Classifieds Blogs Today's Posts Search Social Groups



  
SIGN-UP
Notices

Glock Talk
Welcome To The Glock Talk Forums.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-25-2013, 08:06   #26
whoflungdo
Senior Member
 
whoflungdo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: MS
Posts: 6,055
Quote:
Originally Posted by JBnTX View Post
Why would you go to a firearms oriented website to argue with liberal gun banners?

Would you go to Jiffy Lube to buy clothes?
I believe he meant to argue with himself...
__________________

GTDS Certified Member #9
whoflungdo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2013, 09:06   #27
Bruce H
Senior Member
 
Bruce H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: missouri
Posts: 4,517
A machete between their eyes would be a far better way to deal with them. Opposing opinions are just fine, but when those opinions are contrary to the documents that government is supposed to be run under we have another problem.
__________________
I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me at once.
Bruce H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2013, 17:12   #28
Gunhaver
the wrong hands
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,736
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by JBnTX View Post
Why would you go to a firearms oriented website to argue with liberal gun banners?

Would you go to Jiffy Lube to buy clothes?
Um, obviously I meant a way for YOU to argue with liberal gun banners. One that actually works. I know the temptation to fling insults is overwhelming but try to keep up here.

Or you could just keep calling them lazy useless people that need a machete between the eyes and then wonder why they want to take all the guns away from your crazy asses.
Gunhaver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2013, 17:26   #29
Gunhaver
the wrong hands
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,736
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by cowboy1964 View Post
Good luck with that.

And how do you "ignore" no longer being able to buy a new AR?
I don't need an AR. I have an FNAR and it's much better. But I can ignore any laws that require me to give it up just like I can ignore a lot of other stupid laws. It's called civil disobedience.

Sure, I'd prefer to just be able to buy what I like and not have to hide it but there are other issues more important to me and none of them have anything to do with healthcare. Maybe if you all are lucky enough to get another libertarian candidate you won't throw the chance away again.
Gunhaver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2013, 18:17   #30
whoflungdo
Senior Member
 
whoflungdo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: MS
Posts: 6,055
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunhaver View Post
Um, obviously I meant a way for YOU to argue with liberal gun banners. One that actually works. I know the temptation to fling insults is overwhelming but try to keep up here.

Or you could just keep calling them lazy useless people that need a machete between the eyes and then wonder why they want to take all the guns away from your crazy asses.
A temptation you seem to continue to fall into..at least you are consistent in your hypocrisy..
__________________

GTDS Certified Member #9

Last edited by whoflungdo; 01-25-2013 at 18:18..
whoflungdo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2013, 18:57   #31
Gunhaver
the wrong hands
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,736
Blog Entries: 1
So today on FB, in response to this crap,

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2551592.html

"I think that should read "drug testing those that collect welfare and unemployment money." I don't have a problem with either of those ideas. Check them for alcohol and tobacco while they're at it and ask why they're not using that money to feed their kids. Make them pay for the test too.

It currently costs about the same to pay for taxes and fees and other requirements on a gun purchase and carry permit as the price of a decent handgun. That's a right guaranteed us in the constitution and twice reaffirmed by SCOTUS and we still have to pay to exercise it. Welfare, while necessary for those with no other option, is not a right but a privilege. Carry permits are good idea because it ensures that those that have them have met a minimum standard that puts them above criticism from opposition. You won't find a more law abiding group with cleaner backgrounds than carry permit holders unless you start looking at people with security clearance. Best that the people that tax dollars support meet a similar standard so that anyone that wants to paint them all as lazy and useless can be shut down with some pretty well known facts before they even get started.

But it shouldn't cost anyone $20 for a yearly drug test to ensure that taxpayer money isn't wasted? It was first proposed that only people that showed signs of using be tested but that was met with too many cries of potential for discrimination so now we'll have to test everybody. They're starting to talk about mandatory insurance for gun owners and I'm sure drug testing for gun owners will come up too. Sorry but I'm finding little sympathy for those on the dole that wouldn't test positive for being subjected to the indignity of a drug test when they'll have to suffer it as soon as they get a job anyway."

Last edited by Gunhaver; 01-25-2013 at 19:06..
Gunhaver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2013, 18:58   #32
Gunhaver
the wrong hands
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,736
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by whoflungdo View Post
A temptation you seem to continue to fall into..at least you are consistent in your hypocrisy..
Well he started it...

Last edited by Gunhaver; 01-25-2013 at 18:58..
Gunhaver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2013, 19:05   #33
Gunhaver
the wrong hands
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,736
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by SIGlock View Post
Gunhaver needs alot of attention again.

Guys, you need to learn to stop feeding this troll.
Oh if I needed attention then I'd be all over PI all the time because y'all just can't resist chewing me out. Surefire source of attention right over here.

But I get plenty of attention elsewhere, the positive kind, that I don't mind showing up in a few political threads and letting the fools have at me. I'm a former Christian so rejection by angry single minded people is a second language for me.
Gunhaver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2013, 19:59   #34
ChuteTheMall
What Difference
 
ChuteTheMall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Sinkholeville
Posts: 57,367


I'm not at all interested in changing liberal minds; even a gun-owning troll might have voted for Obama for other issues. He's still evil.
I'm far more interested in destroying liberals, especially the hypocrites who might happen to own guns but still voted for the most anti-gun politician in American history.

I have no desire to change their minds into anything other than a pink mist.
ChuteTheMall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2013, 20:12   #35
Cavalry Doc
Silver Membership
MAJ (USA Ret.)
 
Cavalry Doc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Republic of Texas
Posts: 41,184


Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunhaver View Post
I didn't vote for Obama to help maintain my gun rights.

That's sigline material right there.
Cavalry Doc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2013, 21:51   #36
frank4570
Feral human
 
frank4570's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Cul Va
Posts: 16,684
Blog Entries: 1
Democratic party platform on gun control.

"We will protect Americans’ Second Amendment right to own firearms, and we will keep guns out of the hands of criminals and terrorists by fighting gun crime, reauthorizing the assault weapons ban, and closing the gun show loophole, "

It's no secret. It's not a hidden agenda. It's the party platform. Voting for a democrat is voting against the second amendment. PARTICULARLY voting for Obama.
__________________
Fear your government.
"Rats aren't creepy, experimenting on them IS." Emilie Autumn.

For too long people have said "screw NY, IL, etc" or "that'll never happen here." Yes, it will eventually. If we dont start standing up together now, it will never stop.-ilgunguygt
frank4570 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2013, 21:58   #37
Gunhaver
the wrong hands
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,736
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChuteTheMall View Post

I have no desire to change their minds into anything other than a pink mist.
So you want to shoot them in the head because of who they voted for? Nice. Be sure to put that message out there loud and clear so they know that you're one of those angry right wing whack jobs they're always talking about and among the first that should have their guns confiscated.
Gunhaver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2013, 22:05   #38
Gunhaver
the wrong hands
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,736
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by frank4570 View Post
Democratic party platform on gun control.

"We will protect Americans’ Second Amendment right to own firearms, and we will keep guns out of the hands of criminals and terrorists by fighting gun crime, reauthorizing the assault weapons ban, and closing the gun show loophole, "

It's no secret. It's not a hidden agenda. It's the party platform. Voting for a democrat is voting against the second amendment. PARTICULARLY voting for Obama.
So you're telling me that never has a Democrat voted against gun control and never has a Republican voted for it? I beg to differ. I have voted for several Democrats that have a good 2A record and I had the pleasure of voting against a gun banning Republican in a recent presidential election. Sorry you guys couldn't come up with anyone better but it's about time you all started thinking about that and quit about it.
Gunhaver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2013, 22:10   #39
ChuteTheMall
What Difference
 
ChuteTheMall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Sinkholeville
Posts: 57,367


Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunhaver View Post
So you want to shoot them in the head because of who they voted for? Nice. Be sure to put that message out there loud and clear so they know that you're one of those angry right wing whack jobs they're always talking about and among the first that should have their guns confiscated.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ, Pinko.
ChuteTheMall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2013, 23:16   #40
certifiedfunds
Platinum Membership
Tewwowist
 
certifiedfunds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 39,724


Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunhaver View Post
Remind them of what they don't like about the government and that they're advocating so hard to give a monopoly on the use of force to that same government... and the corporations that controls it. It's making them stop and think more than anything else I've tried.



FB post,


Political Issues


" I saw this yesterday and I rolled my eyes and blew it off as another right wing anti-occupy jab that needed no further consideration. Then I gave it further consideration. This is exactly what so many on the left are asking for. It may not be what they want but it's what they're asking for. So many times since this most recent shooting I've heard the cries that only police and military should have guns or should have "those types of guns". This is the police force that you want to hand more power to. This is what you're asking for, a police state that you will be completely powerless to resist no matter how far they go because you've happily and willingly disarmed yourselves and everyone else. You're trying your best to make sure that the agents of the rich and powerful get to have the big guns and we don't. You scream and cry for tougher gun restrictions for everyone but the elite that can get whatever they like.

You really don't want to do anything. You just want somebody else to do something. It's just like the right keeps saying about you."
Hypocrite for sure. The guy that votes for Mr. Big Government Gun Grabber for POTUS and wants socialized medicine to pay for his girlfriends medicine wants to preach to others about natural rights and big government.

What a joke.
certifiedfunds is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2013, 23:26   #41
certifiedfunds
Platinum Membership
Tewwowist
 
certifiedfunds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 39,724


Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunhaver View Post
I think TxGun was right in a way. This thread started as a way to argue with liberal gun banners which is actually working but it's real purpose seems to be to demonstrate that on GTPI the real concern isn't gun rights, it's finding every possible opportunity to ***** about liberals.

Go ahead fellas, keep up the exclusionary tactics and see how far that gets you.
You vote for a gun grabber, you're a gun grabber. No such thing as a pro gun liberal. Liberal gun owner, sure. Not a pro gun liberal. You can't vote for your big government social programs and vote for your second amendment rights at the same time.

I wouldn't call you a liberal, you've demonstrated that you're more in the Marxist bucket.

It has become obvious that people like you who can't understand that a government big enough to give you free healthcare and all sorts of social programs paid for with money confiscated from other people, is big enough to take away your guns.
certifiedfunds is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2013, 04:06   #42
beforeobamabans
FYPM
 
beforeobamabans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Crossroads of America
Posts: 5,589
"This is the approach I'm taking with anti-gun people"

How about not voting for them?
__________________
G17, G26, G30SF, Gen4 G23

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty." Ben Franklin

Last edited by beforeobamabans; 01-26-2013 at 04:08..
beforeobamabans is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2013, 05:07   #43
Cavalry Doc
Silver Membership
MAJ (USA Ret.)
 
Cavalry Doc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Republic of Texas
Posts: 41,184


Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunhaver View Post
I think TxGun was right in a way. This thread started as a way to argue with liberal gun banners which is actually working but it's real purpose seems to be to demonstrate that on GTPI the real concern isn't gun rights, it's finding every possible opportunity to ***** about liberals.

Go ahead fellas, keep up the exclusionary tactics and see how far that gets you.
On occasion, it helps to broaden your perspective. 8 years of Obama doesn't mean that there won't be a republican back in the White House. Look at the last 40 years. The death of both parties has been declared after just about every election.

Exclusionary tactics are exactly what we need. You are right that posters here are small potatoes, the purge needs to happen at the top of the party.

Last edited by Cavalry Doc; 01-26-2013 at 05:08..
Cavalry Doc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2013, 05:13   #44
frank4570
Feral human
 
frank4570's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Cul Va
Posts: 16,684
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunhaver View Post
So you're telling me that never has a Democrat voted against gun control and never has a Republican voted for it? I beg to differ. I have voted for several Democrats that have a good 2A record and I had the pleasure of voting against a gun banning Republican in a recent presidential election. Sorry you guys couldn't come up with anyone better but it's about time you all started thinking about that and quit about it.
I'm telling you that at this moment the democrats are trying as hard as they can to bring a new AWB and the republicans are the exact reason they can't get what they want.
They have proven they don't give a crap about the opinions of an extremely small group of pro-gun democrats.
The person you voted for will disarm you as fast as he is allowed to.
__________________
Fear your government.
"Rats aren't creepy, experimenting on them IS." Emilie Autumn.

For too long people have said "screw NY, IL, etc" or "that'll never happen here." Yes, it will eventually. If we dont start standing up together now, it will never stop.-ilgunguygt
frank4570 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2013, 05:36   #45
hogship
It's MY Island
 
hogship's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Northwest territory, pardner!
Posts: 11,701
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunhaver View Post
So today on FB, in response to this crap,

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2551592.html

"I think that should read "drug testing those that collect welfare and unemployment money." I don't have a problem with either of those ideas. Check them for alcohol and tobacco while they're at it and ask why they're not using that money to feed their kids. Make them pay for the test too.

It currently costs about the same to pay for taxes and fees and other requirements on a gun purchase and carry permit as the price of a decent handgun. That's a right guaranteed us in the constitution and twice reaffirmed by SCOTUS and we still have to pay to exercise it. Welfare, while necessary for those with no other option, is not a right but a privilege. Carry permits are good idea because it ensures that those that have them have met a minimum standard that puts them above criticism from opposition. You won't find a more law abiding group with cleaner backgrounds than carry permit holders unless you start looking at people with security clearance. Best that the people that tax dollars support meet a similar standard so that anyone that wants to paint them all as lazy and useless can be shut down with some pretty well known facts before they even get started.

But it shouldn't cost anyone $20 for a yearly drug test to ensure that taxpayer money isn't wasted? It was first proposed that only people that showed signs of using be tested but that was met with too many cries of potential for discrimination so now we'll have to test everybody. They're starting to talk about mandatory insurance for gun owners and I'm sure drug testing for gun owners will come up too. Sorry but I'm finding little sympathy for those on the dole that wouldn't test positive for being subjected to the indignity of a drug test when they'll have to suffer it as soon as they get a job anyway."
Actually, initial and random drug testing for welfare recipients, and unemployment benefits, is a very good idea......and, while we're at it......anyone who wants a driver's license, or ANYONE who takes our tax dollars for subsistence, ought to be included in that group. (fat chance in hell )

I don't believe I've ever seen any data on this, but I'd be willing to bet the illegal drug users are far more prevalent in the welfare sector, than the gainfully employed. Whether or not that is true has no bearing on the fact that our tax money is being used to pay for, or enable drug habits......as well as buy the votes necessary to perpetuate the drug abuse.

I have no problem with anyone who wishes to protect themselves and loved ones, owning, or purchasing a gun.....the need for survival is on par with the need to eat, shelter, and clothe, IMO.

ooc
__________________
NRA/VFW life, Harley Davidson FXDX, very patriotic!
Old iron pumper w/pony tail, Christian, lathe artist
Rock'n'Roll, AC/DC & Elvis! Clings to religion & guns!
Visit my Vietnam photo album, 1968-69 click on link
www.picturetrail.com/taipan22alpha

Last edited by hogship; 01-26-2013 at 05:43..
hogship is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2013, 05:55   #46
Cavalry Doc
Silver Membership
MAJ (USA Ret.)
 
Cavalry Doc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Republic of Texas
Posts: 41,184


Quote:
Originally Posted by hogship View Post
Actually, initial and random drug testing for welfare recipients, and unemployment benefits, is a very good idea......and, while we're at it......anyone who wants a driver's license, or ANYONE who takes our tax dollars for subsistence, ought to be included in that group. (fat chance in hell )

I don't believe I've ever seen any data on this, but I'd be willing to bet the illegal drug users are far more prevalent in the welfare sector, than the gainfully employed. Whether or not that is true has no bearing on the fact that our tax money is being used to pay for, or enable drug habits......as well as buy the votes necessary to perpetuate the drug abuse.

I have no problem with anyone who wishes to protect themselves and loved ones, owning, or purchasing a gun.....the need for survival is on par with the need to eat, shelter, and clothe, IMO.

ooc
Just my own experience treating civilians in a hospital that also has a 400+ bed inpatient substance abuse treatment program (i work in another specialty, but while they are there, all their other medical issues are taken care of, and many of them are consulted to me.) I also see people just living in the community, that's probably a majority.

My own perspective is that there is a LARGE correlation between getting money for not working and recreational substance use. It's a chicken and the egg thing. Did the drug use make them unproductive and lazy? Were they unproductive and lazy before? Is being unproductive, dependent on others, and lazy a risk factor for substance abuse? That's a research project for someone else. But I have seen enough to be convinced that drug testing is a good idea for two reasons. First, it may convince some to go back to work if they aren't being supported and living a recreational lifestyle without having to work. I have no problems with recreational substance use if you can handle it and hold a job. And, if these guys are living on my dime, and they have left over money for drugs, booze and cigarettes, we are giving them too much.
Cavalry Doc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2013, 06:35   #47
Cavalry Doc
Silver Membership
MAJ (USA Ret.)
 
Cavalry Doc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Republic of Texas
Posts: 41,184


Quote:
Originally Posted by certifiedfunds View Post
You vote for a gun grabber, you're a gun grabber. No such thing as a pro gun liberal. Liberal gun owner, sure. Not a pro gun liberal. You can't vote for your big government social programs and vote for your second amendment rights at the same time.

I wouldn't call you a liberal, you've demonstrated that you're more in the Marxist bucket.

It has become obvious that people like you who can't understand that a government big enough to give you free healthcare and all sorts of social programs paid for with money confiscated from other people, is big enough to take away your guns.
Correction, it's big enough to take away everything, including health care, life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Cavalry Doc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2013, 07:29   #48
certifiedfunds
Platinum Membership
Tewwowist
 
certifiedfunds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 39,724


Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunhaver View Post
So you want to shoot them in the head because of who they voted for? Nice. Be sure to put that message out there loud and clear so they know that you're one of those angry right wing whack jobs they're always talking about and among the first that should have their guns confiscated.
Obama voters are the reason we need hi cap mags in the first place.

No one expect swarms of conservatives or libertarians to riot when the handouts stop.

Its folks like you that will demand their free subsistance, violently.
certifiedfunds is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2013, 08:01   #49
whoflungdo
Senior Member
 
whoflungdo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: MS
Posts: 6,055
Quote:
Originally Posted by certifiedfunds View Post
Obama voters are the reason we need hi cap mags in the first place.

No one expect swarms of conservatives or libertarians to riot when the handouts stop.

Its folks like you that will demand their free subsistance, violently.
That is signature material right there..
__________________

GTDS Certified Member #9
whoflungdo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2013, 08:03   #50
Ruble Noon
"Cracker"
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 11,018
Quote:
Originally Posted by certifiedfunds View Post
Obama voters are the reason we need hi cap mags in the first place.

No one expect swarms of conservatives or libertarians to riot when the handouts stop.

Its folks like you that will demand their free subsistance, violently.

Ruble Noon is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 20:39.



Homepage
FAQ
Forums
Calendar
Advertise
Gallery
GT Wiki
GT Blogs
Social Groups
Classifieds


Users Currently Online: 1,423
467 Members
956 Guests

Most users ever online: 2,244
Nov 11, 2013 at 11:42