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Old 01-27-2013, 03:10   #21
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I don't buy guns alot or frequent my favorite LGS very often, BUT I will say that the guy I like to deal with doesn't pull shady crap!!

Bought my Gen 4 17 a few weeks back. Price was as the same as months ago before this whole fiasco started! What AR's he gets in are spoken for, he's had a waiting list and and he hasn't tried to screw the prices on them for the ones able to buy them!

I'm just happy to deal with an honest guy! Really he has no reason to screw people, he's making a killin as it is, if he tried to shaft people I'm sure his business would fall off.
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:25   #22
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Mine does not say Gen 4 on the slide, and it does have the finger grips so it apparently must be a Gen 3....correct?
Yes sir.
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:37   #23
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A lot of stores have been doing this for years. I bought a used range gun (gen 3 g17) years ago. After the BS Maryland cool down I picked up the gun, NO MAGS in the box!!

I thought at first it was just an oversight and they forgot the mags. They told me they were extra. In a fit of rage (I was seeing red) I pulled my phone out and started the process of canceling the purchase via my credit card company. They quickly found two mags for me. I was still pissed and almost cancelled anyway but wussed out and took the mags and left.
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:52   #24
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I am new to this, I just bought my first Glock 23 today.
What do you mean by blue label? How do I know what Gen mine is? It has a red label that says FXD 5.5 lb. and below that it says 3 13RD and it did come with three 13 rd. mags. It was brand new but the trigger lock wasn't in the box, but I didn't notice it until I got home with it.
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Mine does not say Gen 4 on the slide, and it does have the finger grips so it apparently must be a Gen 3....correct?

But as I stated earlier mine came with three thirteen rd. mags.
The only Red Labels that I am aware of only came with 3 mags if they were Gen4. Look again on the side of your slide. As stated above, it should also have a small plastic bag with 2 backstraps and a tool as well.
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:56   #25
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...It was brand new but the trigger lock wasn't in the box, but I didn't notice it until I got home with it.
Go ask the shop for the lock. I believe it's a law in most states to include those with new handguns. They are pretty worthless and inconvenient, but you may find another use for it.
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Old 01-27-2013, 07:21   #26
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So gen3 Glocks only come with 2 mags?


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Gen 3 Blue Labels come with 3 mags unless they are the sub-compacts.
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:38   #27
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Classic Arms in Cordova TN had a Gen 4 Glock 22 in the case yesterday with a note on the tag that said it came with 2 mags.

I know it was new because he uses yellow tags to show used and white to show new and it had a white tag.

I wasn't interested in it so I didn't say anything, with all of the people buying guns now that usually don't he will probably sell it that way no problem.

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Old 01-27-2013, 08:49   #28
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I recently bought a G19 and a G23 at the local hardware store. The clerk announced proudly that the new Gen 4s came with 3 mags. Good to shop local here.
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:03   #29
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A lot of stores have been doing this for years. I bought a used range gun (gen 3 g17) years ago. After the BS Maryland cool down I picked up the gun, NO MAGS in the box!!
... Or perhaps you were buying a Bren Ten!
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:36   #30
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I am new to this, I just bought my first Glock 23 today.
What do you mean by blue label? How do I know what Gen mine is? It has a red label that says FXD 5.5 lb. and below that it says 3 13RD and it did come with three 13 rd. mags. It was brand new but the trigger lock wasn't in the box, but I didn't notice it until I got home with it.
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Sold to Law Enforcement and bunches of others at a discount price that are on a list that I don't have at the moment.

Red Label
Glock Refurbished. Possibly a Police trade in that has been gone through and refurbished and re-labeled by Glock and re-sold. Nothing wrong with it.

White Label
Factory Glocks sold at the regular price to civilians or those who are not on "the list" at full price.
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:44   #31
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Blue Label
Sold to Law Enforcement and bunches of others at a discount price that are on a list that I don't have at the moment.

Red Label
Glock Refurbished. Possibly a Police trade in that has been gone through and refurbished and re-labeled by Glock and re-sold. Nothing wrong with it.


White Label
Factory Glocks sold at the regular price to civilians or those who are not on "the list" at full price.
Absolutelly not true.

Red Labels are guns that include mags that hold over 10 rounds. In a 10-rnd state you can get a White Label G17, otherwise civivians get a G17 with a Red Label.

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Old 01-27-2013, 09:51   #32
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Blue Label
Sold to Law Enforcement and bunches of others at a discount price that are on a list that I don't have at the moment.

Red Label
Glock Refurbished. Possibly a Police trade in that has been gone through and refurbished and re-labeled by Glock and re-sold. Nothing wrong with it.

White Label
Factory Glocks sold at the regular price to civilians or those who are not on "the list" at full price.
Should I have paid full price for it if it is "refurbished "?
They wanted 585.00 for it and I gave them 550.00 cash plus 10.00 for the BG check and 40.00 for two boxes of Winchester Ranger 180 gr FMJ

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Old 01-27-2013, 09:52   #33
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Classic Arms in Cordova TN had a Gen 4 Glock 22 in the case yesterday with a note on the tag that said it came with 2 mags.

I know it was new because he uses yellow tags to show used and white to show new and it had a white tag.

I wasn't interested in it so I didn't say anything, with all of the people buying guns now that usually don't he will probably sell it that way no problem.

Koz
Thanks for the info Koz.
Spread the word far and wide about these POS!
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:55   #34
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To those dealers that are taking a mag out of the box and reselling it claiming that Glock only ships one mag.
It's called "stock splitting"- it's really just a nice term for "petty theft".

Glad to see that Glock takes a dim view of the practice.
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:56   #35
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Absolutelly not true.

Red Labels are guns that include mags that hold over 10 rounds. In a 10-rnd state you can get a White Label G17, otherwise civivians get a G17 with a Red Label.
Looks like I may be calling Glock to find out. I wanted to shoot the damn thing today but I'm not going to if I may want to take it back. The bad thing is they have no more left and they said they have a two month wait to get more Glocks.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:01   #36
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Looks like I may be calling Glock to find out. I wanted to shoot the damn thing today but I'm not going to if I may want to take it back. The bad thing is they have no more left and they said they have a two month wait to get more Glocks.
Moto, your Glock is fine. It's just like SARDG said, red label guns are still new, they just have hi-cap mags.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:04   #37
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A very large gun store near me was once a Glock LE dealer and had a special room of blue label guns. They required ID before they would let you in there, but the price discount was well worth it. I bought several from these guys.

Found out soon after that they were taking their blue label guns (discounted from the factory, no federal excise tax) and putting them in the case for regular customers to buy at full retail. They quickly lost their partnership with Glock over that one.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:06   #38
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Glock Refurbished. Possibly a Police trade in that has been gone through and refurbished and re-labeled by Glock and re-sold. Nothing wrong with it......
Where do you get this absolute rubbish information from?
NOT TRUE!
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:10   #39
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Looks like I may be calling Glock to find out. I wanted to shoot the damn thing today but I'm not going to if I may want to take it back. The bad thing is they have no more left and they said they have a two month wait to get more Glocks.
Why would you take it back? You have a new pistol with three mags.
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