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03-27-2013, 19:25
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CLM Number 122
Why so serious?
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Man Allegedly Picks Fight With Cops While Carrying Gun, Cocaine
Man Allegedly Picks Fight With Cops While Carrying Gun, Cocaine
http://www.courant.com/community/new...,5984378.story
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03-27-2013, 19:28
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Semper Paratus
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Sorry gun in hand = 180 grain pills dosage applied until gun is dropped.
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How do you establish intent?
Well when a naked man is chasing a woman down an alley with a butcher knife and a hard on, I figure he's not collecting for the red cross...Inspector H. Callahan
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03-27-2013, 20:00
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CLM Number 38
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WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Why didn't they light his ass up like the Fourth of July?!?!?!
You threaten someone with a gun with a TASER?!?!?!??!
I'm sitting here speechless. What is policing coming to?
God help us all.
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03-27-2013, 20:24
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Florist
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I'm glad the cops survived this encounter. But by bringing a Taser to a gun fight, and prevailing, I'm afraid they reinforced a bad tactical practice.
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There are at least two sides to every story. I just heard yours and, indeed, you appear to be the victim. But I can't stop wondering what the other side has to say. :dunno:
In a gun fight, even doing everything right can still get you killed.
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03-27-2013, 20:28
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CLM Number 145
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We seem to be hiring officers incapable/unwilling to use deadly force.
Bad tactics are reinforced by "success".
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03-27-2013, 20:36
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I wonder if, based on the article, the officers were already wrestling him, maybe already on the ground, before the gun became evident.
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Bruce
I never talked to anyone who had to fire their gun who said "I wished I had the smaller gun and fewer rounds with me" Just because you find a hundred people who agree with you on the internet does not mean you're right.
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03-27-2013, 21:32
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CLM Number 122
Why so serious?
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03-28-2013, 05:55
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Semper Paratus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce M
I wonder if, based on the article, the officers were already wrestling him, maybe already on the ground, before the gun became evident.
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Which makes no difference whatsoever I can draw my gun from about any position contact shot game over.
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How do you establish intent?
Well when a naked man is chasing a woman down an alley with a butcher knife and a hard on, I figure he's not collecting for the red cross...Inspector H. Callahan
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03-28-2013, 07:00
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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03-28-2013, 08:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayhem like Me
Which makes no difference whatsoever I can draw my gun from about any position contact shot game over.
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What if you and another officer were both tangled up on the ground with the subject?
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Bruce
I never talked to anyone who had to fire their gun who said "I wished I had the smaller gun and fewer rounds with me" Just because you find a hundred people who agree with you on the internet does not mean you're right.
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03-28-2013, 08:53
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Semper Paratus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce M
What if you and another officer were both tangled up on the ground with the subject?
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Been there many a time I'm smart enough to know where my weapon is it and where my rounds are going to go .
I review all our department taser deployments and I can tell you there's an over dependence on it it is not a lethal weapon and people are using it at the wrong times. You cannot judge it to be the correct choice just because it's a success. There are already documented cases where people use Tasers on Armed individuals and ended up getting shot.
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How do you establish intent?
Well when a naked man is chasing a woman down an alley with a butcher knife and a hard on, I figure he's not collecting for the red cross...Inspector H. Callahan
Last edited by Mayhem like Me; 03-28-2013 at 08:55..
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03-28-2013, 10:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Newcop761
We seem to be hiring officers incapable/unwilling to use deadly force.
Bad tactics are reinforced by "success".
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That is a very true statement.
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03-28-2013, 10:30
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Here's your sign.
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03-28-2013, 15:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Newcop761
We seem to be hiring officers incapable/unwilling to use deadly force.
Bad tactics are reinforced by "success".
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Also, why were the cops carrying cocaine?
Randy
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Last edited by steveksux; 03-28-2013 at 15:33..
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