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Old 02-11-2013, 14:16   #51
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Are you saying that murdering 6 million Jews and likely an equal number of Christians, is a Christian act?
It was done by people who claimed to be Christians. Do you know that the "No true Scotsman" fallacy is?
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Old 02-11-2013, 14:21   #52
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It was done by people who claimed to be Christians. Do you know what the "No true Scotsman" fallacy is?
Of course he does, it appears in Matthew 7:16
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Old 02-11-2013, 17:19   #53
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It was done by people who claimed to be Christians. Do you know that the "No true Scotsman" fallacy is?
Please, what is the 'No true Scottman' fallacy?

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Old 02-11-2013, 18:48   #54
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Please, what is the 'No true Scottman' fallacy?

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http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/No_True_Scotsman
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Old 02-11-2013, 19:23   #55
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He wasn't a suicide bomber, and he didn't give his life to try and further a cause, or to cause as much destruction as possible. He committed suicide because he didn't want to deal with the consequences of his actions. He murdered for personal gain, suicide bombers do it to further their cause and because they will be rewarded in the afterlife. It's like comparing apples and rockets, it just doesn't work.
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He wasn't a suicide bomber, and he didn't give his life to try and further a cause, or to cause as much destruction as possible. He committed suicide because he didn't want to deal with the consequences of his actions. He murdered for personal gain, suicide bombers do it to further their cause and because they will be rewarded in the afterlife. It's like comparing apples and rockets, it just doesn't work.
Read a couple pages back. I've met a few failed suicide bombers.

Most of them are not wild eyed religious fanatics.
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Thank you.
The form this argument frequently takes in this forum is someone will say that atheists have killed millions of people while Christians haven't. Ergo atheists are evil and Christians are good. When someone points out that Christians have killed millions in the name of their religion the Christians respond with, "then they weren't true Christians". Broad sweeping generalizations about groups of people are nearly always wrong. All you have to do to disprove these generalizations is to find one case that doesn't fit the generalization. Arguments that can be debunked that easily are real weak.
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Jesus said love the Lord thy God, and love thy neighbor as thyself.

An early American president, John Quincy Adams, very truly said, "The precept of the Koran is perpetual war against all who deny that Mahomet is the prophet of God". Adams got it; so many today do not.

Molly Norris, a Seattle cartoonist who proposed an "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day" on Facebook as a protest against Islamic censorship and threats, ended up on an Islamic terrorist hit list and, at the FBI's advice, changed her name and went into hiding. Christianity gave us freedom (and Islam took away Molly Norris'), universities, hospitals, the United States, and turned around the lives of innumerable drunks, addicts, criminals and assorted sinners. Islam brings hatred, death and destruction.

As Geert Wilders put it, "We must stop Islamization of Western civilization. This should not even be a political issue - it has become a simple matter of self-preservation."
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