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Old 02-07-2013, 11:47   #41
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If the Bible says it then it must be true?
Now that's just nonsense.
The Bible has stood the test of time.

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Old 02-07-2013, 12:27   #42
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Oh, I forgot about muscogee's link claiming Hitler was a Christian. The Bible provides the best answer to that bit of deception: "Ye shall know them by their fruits" -Matthew 7:16

'Nuff said.
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Old 02-07-2013, 15:55   #43
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The Bible has stood the test of time.

"And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet" -Matthew 10:14
What test wold that be?
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Old 02-07-2013, 15:58   #44
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Oh, I forgot about muscogee's link claiming Hitler was a Christian. The Bible provides the best answer to that bit of deception: "Ye shall know them by their fruits" -Matthew 7:16

'Nuff said.
Can you be more specific? You're not preaching to the choir here. You're going to have to support your statements. Do you concede my other points? Do you admit you were mistaken?
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Old 02-07-2013, 16:02   #45
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Oh, I forgot about muscogee's link claiming Hitler was a Christian. The Bible provides the best answer to that bit of deception: "Ye shall know them by their fruits" -Matthew 7:16

'Nuff said.
So, the "No True Scotsman" fallacy is scriptural?

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"And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet" -Matthew 10:14
As is the "Appeal to Popularity"?
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Old 02-07-2013, 23:47   #46
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You're right, he wasn't a Marxist, in the sense of 'looking out for working people'. The only working-class person he knew was his servant, Helen Demuth, whom he never paid any wages, and whom he adulterously used as his mistress. How convenient that he loathed Judeo-Christian religion and its morality. Their illegitimate son, Freddy, was only allowed in the back door. When his wife found out, she was devastated. Marx was a bum too: he never seriously tried to get a job, but lived off loans which were never repaid. His sugar-daddy, Engels, covered for him. His family lived in squalid conditions, which caused a legitimate son to die young of gastroenteritis. One daughter died of opium overdose and another committed suicide. Marx smoked and drank heavily, and stunk because he seldom bathed.

But selfish Marx didn't let any of this worry him: he envisioned massive destruction, the end of history, when his proletariat would rise up in class warfare and destroy the capitalist world. He was a hypocrite, immensely selfish and bloody-minded, like Mohammed. He preached envy of "the rich", theft of their property, and murder described as 'class warfare' and 'revolution'. His communism, one of the greatest failures in human history, murdered 100 million innocents in the 20th century.
You're Snowbird... you write just like him and your slanted view of history is the same.

Funny how his posts in RI stopped on 12-02-12 and your very first post as a member was 12-04-12.
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Oh, I forgot about muscogee's link claiming Hitler was a Christian. The Bible provides the best answer to that bit of deception: "Ye shall know them by their fruits" -Matthew 7:16

'Nuff said.
Ah, the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. That card gets played every single time, it's just a question of when.

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Ah, the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. That card gets played every single time, it's just a question of when.

Are you saying that murdering 6 million Jews and likely an equal number of Christians, is a Christian act?
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Are you saying that murdering 6 million Jews and likely an equal number of Christians, is a Christian act?
Sure.. if they're the "Wrong" kind of Christians or aren't Christian enough.
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Are you saying that murdering 6 million Jews and likely an equal number of Christians, is a Christian act?
It was done by people who claimed to be Christians. Do you know that the "No true Scotsman" fallacy is?
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It was done by people who claimed to be Christians. Do you know what the "No true Scotsman" fallacy is?
Of course he does, it appears in Matthew 7:16
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It was done by people who claimed to be Christians. Do you know that the "No true Scotsman" fallacy is?
Please, what is the 'No true Scottman' fallacy?

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Old 02-11-2013, 19:48   #54
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Please, what is the 'No true Scottman' fallacy?

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http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/No_True_Scotsman
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He wasn't a suicide bomber, and he didn't give his life to try and further a cause, or to cause as much destruction as possible. He committed suicide because he didn't want to deal with the consequences of his actions. He murdered for personal gain, suicide bombers do it to further their cause and because they will be rewarded in the afterlife. It's like comparing apples and rockets, it just doesn't work.
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He wasn't a suicide bomber, and he didn't give his life to try and further a cause, or to cause as much destruction as possible. He committed suicide because he didn't want to deal with the consequences of his actions. He murdered for personal gain, suicide bombers do it to further their cause and because they will be rewarded in the afterlife. It's like comparing apples and rockets, it just doesn't work.
Read a couple pages back. I've met a few failed suicide bombers.

Most of them are not wild eyed religious fanatics.
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Thank you.
The form this argument frequently takes in this forum is someone will say that atheists have killed millions of people while Christians haven't. Ergo atheists are evil and Christians are good. When someone points out that Christians have killed millions in the name of their religion the Christians respond with, "then they weren't true Christians". Broad sweeping generalizations about groups of people are nearly always wrong. All you have to do to disprove these generalizations is to find one case that doesn't fit the generalization. Arguments that can be debunked that easily are real weak.
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Old 02-15-2013, 15:30   #59
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Jesus said love the Lord thy God, and love thy neighbor as thyself.

An early American president, John Quincy Adams, very truly said, "The precept of the Koran is perpetual war against all who deny that Mahomet is the prophet of God". Adams got it; so many today do not.

Molly Norris, a Seattle cartoonist who proposed an "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day" on Facebook as a protest against Islamic censorship and threats, ended up on an Islamic terrorist hit list and, at the FBI's advice, changed her name and went into hiding. Christianity gave us freedom (and Islam took away Molly Norris'), universities, hospitals, the United States, and turned around the lives of innumerable drunks, addicts, criminals and assorted sinners. Islam brings hatred, death and destruction.

As Geert Wilders put it, "We must stop Islamization of Western civilization. This should not even be a political issue - it has become a simple matter of self-preservation."
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