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02-17-2013, 08:44
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My local range is as busy as can be and always has 1-2 hours of waiting time.
I don't know where they are getting that ammo from.
The store part of the range does sell some target ammo but the prices have gone up about 25% per box.
I'm holding my stash as tight as I can and used to go shooting every week and now go every 2 to 3 weeks.
I do practice more with my air bb guns as I have plenty of pellets and co2 for the pistols.
Some of my air pistols do resemble and handle very much the same as my regular guns including slide actions.
I'm down to about 900 rounds of 9mm and 1200 rounds in .45 acp and will not go below that.
I only go to the range when I can score the ammo for it at a decent price or will not go.
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02-17-2013, 09:57
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#102
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FLIPPER 348
I've sold plenty at a mildly obscene profit. .....reloads too!
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If you're selling YOUR reloads, you might want to reconsider that in the future.
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02-17-2013, 12:55
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#103
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ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
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I have continued to shoot. I will continue to shoot. I will attempt to get others to do the same.
It is a perishable skill. If people stop, they gun-grabbers have won, plain and simple.
.22lr is something we all should have had thousands of, and something that will become available again for reasonable prices. Most training can be done with .22lr.
Get out there and train.
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02-17-2013, 15:05
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#104
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Location: Hartford, Vermont
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jdavionic
If you're selling YOUR reloads, you might want to reconsider that in the future.
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True. It is quite risky selling reloads.
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02-17-2013, 19:57
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#105
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Location: Bend Oregon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jdavionic
If you're selling YOUR reloads, you might want to reconsider that in the future.
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....I might reconsider the price if the nuttyness continues! Honestly, I have no issue selling my reloads to my shooting buddies.
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02-17-2013, 21:17
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#106
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FLIPPER 348
....I might reconsider the price if the nuttyness continues! Honestly, I have no issue selling my reloads to my shooting buddies.
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Aren't there legal issues with manufacturing ammo and selling it?
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02-17-2013, 21:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jdavionic
Aren't there legal issues with manufacturing ammo and selling it?
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I don't think so.
Possibly potential liability if something goes wrong with one of the firearms while your round was (in fact or by allegation) being used, but I don't think there are any silly laws or regulations or anything to worry about. At least not federally or within any states whose laws I am aware of.
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02-17-2013, 22:15
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#108
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jdavionic
Aren't there legal issues with manufacturing ammo and selling it?
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Don't know, don't care. I'm selling to friends who want to buy.
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02-18-2013, 08:20
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#109
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FLIPPER 348
Don't know, don't care. I'm selling to friends who want to buy.
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I hope that you never have a double-charge!
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02-18-2013, 19:20
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#110
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I never will.
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02-18-2013, 19:27
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#111
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Originally Posted by FLIPPER 348
I never will.
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I'll bet that you don't use fast-burning propellants.
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02-18-2013, 20:26
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#112
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I use W296 & BlueDot, no chance of a 2X charge. I also have supreme situational awareness due to the needs of my profession. A bad reload just will never happen.
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02-19-2013, 11:57
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#113
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FLIPPER 348
I use W296 & BlueDot, no chance of a 2X charge. I also have supreme situational awareness due to the needs of my profession. A bad reload just will never happen.
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That's a good practice. No double charges with bulky powders!
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02-19-2013, 19:37
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#114
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You think it may be because of the cost and availability of ammo?
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02-20-2013, 10:36
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#115
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AZson
This is the best time to be a reloader. Got 9000 pistol primers in stock and 4000 SR primers and 8000 .22 rds
I got tons of lead and 25lbs of powder, I'm set for years.
Almost feel guilty but I've been stocking up for years.
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Good for you, sir. 
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02-21-2013, 08:46
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#116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jdavionic
Aren't there legal issues with manufacturing ammo and selling it?
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There are liability issues and liability insurance is a good investment. One of my childhood friends owns a gun shop and has such a policy since he sells reloaded ammo made on the premises- he's used it exactly once. Guy filed a suit against him alleging that one of his reloads blew up his gun and messed up his hand. Later, it came out that the guy was actually using his own reloads produced using an erroneous (and waaaay over-pressure) load recipe and he figured that he'd make good on his loss by going after my friend's livelihood.
These days where lawsuits are filed at the drop of a hat it is the best wealth protection you can have. People sue for their own acts of stupidity and the expenses of defending a claim can mount fast and are likely not recoverable even if you prevail.
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02-22-2013, 15:18
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#117
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Originally Posted by M 7
There are liability issues and liability insurance is a good investment. One of my childhood friends owns a gun shop and has such a policy since he sells reloaded ammo made on the premises- he's used it exactly once. Guy filed a suit against him alleging that one of his reloads blew up his gun and messed up his hand. Later, it came out that the guy was actually using his own reloads produced using an erroneous (and waaaay over-pressure) load recipe and he figured that he'd make good on his loss by going after my friend's livelihood.
These days where lawsuits are filed at the drop of a hat it is the best wealth protection you can have. People sue for their own acts of stupidity and the expenses of defending a claim can mount fast and are likely not recoverable even if you prevail.
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So true - a person selling reloads must have an attorney standing by.
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02-22-2013, 20:22
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#118
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I'll get by somehow without one.
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02-23-2013, 21:26
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#119
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SCmasterblaster
That's a good practice. No double charges with bulky powders!
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It's usually a squib charge that gets you, followed by a normal charge.
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02-23-2013, 21:56
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#120
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FLIPPER 348
I use W296 & BlueDot, no chance of a 2X charge. I also have supreme situational awareness due to the needs of my profession. A bad reload just will never happen.
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Did you use that same astute "situational awareness" when you voted for Obama? Why don't you be a good little DemoRat traitor and turn your guns in. It's "for the children".
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02-24-2013, 00:04
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#121
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiro Fijo
Did you use that same astute "situational awareness" when you voted for Obama?

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yep!!
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02-24-2013, 09:50
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#122
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Location: CT
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Yesterday a good friend and his wife who are new to shooting asked if I could meet them at the range with a few of my guns to try out before deciding on their first handgun purchases. They applied for their permits in November and still haven't gotten them, but they have already picked up 2 Ruger 10/22's and a M&P 15. I packed up my G26, G23/19, Kel-Tec P3AT, and my AR. All the range time and ammo was on their dime for the favor of letting them shoot the guns/instruct them. $27.50/hr per person for range time and $24.95/50 of 9mm and .40. I brought 70 rounds of cheap TulAmmo .223 I got for $5/box. The sad part is, I told him I would not be shooting due to the lack/cost of ammo. I drove an hour an a half round trip just to help them out. The total for 1 hour of range time and ammo was about $200... I of course had to fire off 30 rounds from my AR... But this was the first time I went to the range with no intentions of shooting... And that was solely based on the current market conditions.
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02-24-2013, 10:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by T-Rod45
Yesterday a good friend and his wife who are new to shooting asked if I could meet them at the range with a few of my guns to try out before deciding on their first handgun purchases. They applied for their permits in November and still haven't gotten them, but they have already picked up 2 Ruger 10/22's and a M&P 15. I packed up my G26, G23/19, Kel-Tec P3AT, and my AR. All the range time and ammo was on their dime for the favor of letting them shoot the guns/instruct them. $27.50/hr per person for range time and $24.95/50 of 9mm and .40. I brought 70 rounds of cheap TulAmmo .223 I got for $5/box. The sad part is, I told him I would not be shooting due to the lack/cost of ammo. I drove an hour an a half round trip just to help them out. The total for 1 hour of range time and ammo was about $200... I of course had to fire off 30 rounds from my AR... But this was the first time I went to the range with no intentions of shooting... And that was solely based on the current market conditions.
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Wow. That is some expensive shooting.
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02-24-2013, 12:10
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#124
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Quote:
Originally Posted by T-Rod45
Yesterday a good friend and his wife who are new to shooting asked if I could meet them at the range with a few of my guns to try out before deciding on their first handgun purchases. They applied for their permits in November and still haven't gotten them, but they have already picked up 2 Ruger 10/22's and a M&P 15. I packed up my G26, G23/19, Kel-Tec P3AT, and my AR. All the range time and ammo was on their dime for the favor of letting them shoot the guns/instruct them. $27.50/hr per person for range time and $24.95/50 of 9mm and .40. I brought 70 rounds of cheap TulAmmo .223 I got for $5/box. The sad part is, I told him I would not be shooting due to the lack/cost of ammo. I drove an hour an a half round trip just to help them out. The total for 1 hour of range time and ammo was about $200... I of course had to fire off 30 rounds from my AR... But this was the first time I went to the range with no intentions of shooting... And that was solely based on the current market conditions.
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WOW. Crazy. That's more expensive than auto racing / track time!
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02-24-2013, 12:22
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#125
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Quote:
Originally Posted by racer88
WOW. Crazy. That's more expensive than auto racing / track time! 
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Yep. The average cost of an indoor range here is $25/hr. Sucks...
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