[mongo356]

Originally Posted by countrygun

On the 1911 ???

Use the mainspring housing pin.

BTW you do know, on the original, you are supposed to use the toe of a mag on the grip screws and the bent small tip on the leaf spring can be used as a screwdriver on the mag release assembly.

Thats nice- reminds me of another American company from a long time ago. Harley Davidson use to have an ad "An engine so simple you could overhaul it alongside the road"..........that’s good because many times you had too.

Strange my Glocks don't seem to need that 3/16" punch very often.

[bac1023]

Originally Posted by mongo356

Thats nice- reminds me of another American company from a long time ago. Harley Davidson use to have an ad "An engine so simple you could overhaul it alongside the road"..........that’s good because many times you had too.

Strange my Glocks don't seem to need that 3/16" punch very often.

Yeah, stick with your Glocks.

They're real simple for beginners.

[Fred Hansen]

Q) Is Gaston Glock on the same level as John Browning?

A) No.

[countrygun]

Originally Posted by mongo356

Thats nice- reminds me of another American company from a long time ago. Harley Davidson use to have an ad "An engine so simple you could overhaul it alongside the road"..........that’s good because many times you had too.

Strange my Glocks don't seem to need that 3/16" punch very often.

The Browning was designed for service men who were capable of disassembling the gun to clean or repair it in the field.

The Glock was designed for those who weren't.

[mongo356]

Not that it will matter at this point but you do know that Glock made the fastest machine pistol on the PLANET right???

[Fred Hansen]

You are correct. Doesn't matter.

[bac1023]

Originally Posted by mongo356

Not that it will matter at this point but you do know that Glock made the fastest machine pistol on the PLANET right???

Who cares? What use does it have?

BTW, Gaston himself didn't design squat in the firearms world.

[Ruggles]

Originally Posted by willieH

What I said was in response to 21Tango's simplistic notion that Browning designed weapons may have effected the outcome of WWII. My equally simplistic answer was to exemplify that other factors played a greater role and had profound consequence to shape the outcome of the war. Sorry not to include Allied battle strategies in Europe/North African campaign, the Soviet and Polish contributions and the Western Pacific naval victories and yes the atomic bomb.

But since you've judged my lack of knowledge, I would welcome your rendition of WWII history that supports 21Tango's notion that Browning designed weapons shaped the wars outcome.

Thing is that if JMB's designs were any more successful in WWII there might just not be any designs by GG today

Regardless of what you think JMB's designs impact was on WWI or WWII the fact is his designs were knee deep in each war, and many since. What wars have any of GG's designs even been involved in to impact?

So.....battle tested firearm designs....point to JMB.

[Ruggles]

Originally Posted by mongo356

Not that it will matter at this point but you do know that Glock made the fastest machine pistol on the PLANET right???

The Beretta 93 is sooo much sweeter than a Glock 18

Faster means squat in a machine pistol IMO.

[1911austin]

Not even close.

[brisk21]

I love how this has turned into a Glock vs. 1911 thread. I also think its funny that people belittle Glocks on here and it is accepted, but if anyone says anthing negative about 1911s they are berated.

[Tiro Fijo]

Originally Posted by brisk21

...I also think its funny that people belittle Glocks on here and it is accepted, but if anyone says anthing negative about 1911s they are berated.

That's becuause many of the 1911 fanboys here on GT are not real shooters. They like to sit around and choke each other's gopher by talking about pretty photos and engaging in "wiener measuring" contests by who has the most expensive 1911. Usually with 1911's the "inverse" principle is in play, i.e., the worst shots have the best guns. Sort of like the fat balding 60 yr. old who drives a Ferrari like a Dodge Dart, or the guy who drives the 70K SUV, has the fancy walnut range case with all the bells & whistles and then shoots a 12" group at 15 yds. with a Wilson.....slow fire. They then post on the Internet of how great it shoots. "best 4K I've ever spent!! Ragged hole at 2 yds!!"

[Wyoming]

Originally Posted by bac1023

Yeah, stick with your Glocks.

They're real simple for beginners.

[Wyoming]

Originally Posted by mongo356

Not that it will matter at this point but you do know that Glock made the fastest machine pistol on the PLANET right???

So what? Have you ever shot a Glock 18? I have. first shot hit the others waisted. Fun yes. Practical no.

Have you notice that no government issue machine pistol?

[countrygun]

Originally Posted by Tiro Fijo

That's becuause many of the 1911 fanboys here on GT are not real shooters. They like to sit around and choke each other's gopher by talking about pretty photos and engaging in "wiener measuring" contests by who has the most expensive 1911. Usually with 1911's the "inverse" principle is in play, i.e., the worst shots have the best guns. Sort of like the fat balding 60 yr. old who drives a Ferrari like a Dodge Dart, or the guy who drives the 70K SUV, has the fancy walnut range case with all the bells & whistles and then shoots a 12" group at 15 yds. with a Wilson.....slow fire. They then post on the Internet of how great it shoots. "best 4K I've ever spent!! Ragged hole at 2 yds!!"

Funny it's usually the Glockers who move the targets closer around here. I think Glokers like them because the polymer frame reminds them of the outer cover on the Pampers that they just out grew. I seriously heard a Glocker ragging on the Sigpro once because it was "Too hard to fieldstrip, you have to take a pin out" I can see why the 1911 terrifies them.

[Wyoming]

Originally Posted by Tiro Fijo

That's becuause many of the 1911 fanboys here on GT are not real shooters. They like to sit around and choke each other's gopher by talking about pretty photos and engaging in "wiener measuring" contests by who has the most expensive 1911. Usually with 1911's the "inverse" principle is in play, i.e., the worst shots have the best guns. Sort of like the fat balding 60 yr. old who drives a Ferrari like a Dodge Dart, or the guy who drives the 70K SUV, has the fancy walnut range case with all the bells & whistles and then shoots a 12" group at 15 yds. with a Wilson.....slow fire. They then post on the Internet of how great it shoots. "best 4K I've ever spent!! Ragged hole at 2 yds!!"

Funny that you pick 60 year olds. I will be 60 in May so I will then qualify, Bring your Glock. We will will shoot steel target at 100 yards.

It can be done with a Glock if you know how to shoot. I taught my brother how to. He lives east of the Mississippi where they think that is a long ways.

BTW, it is a lot easier to do with a 1911.

A Glock is a great gun for the average person. Simple to learn and use. It is why police departments like it. Most cops are gun dumb in this country. This is not meant to be an insult. The Internet is full of videos of cops doing gun dumb stuff.

I have owned and shot 1911's for decades and a well made 1911 is for me an easy gun to shoot. Not many people can make that statement but there are a few here on Glock Talk that can.

[Rinspeed]

Originally Posted by Tiro Fijo

That's becuause many of the 1911 fanboys here on GT are not real shooters. They like to sit around and choke each other's gopher by talking about pretty photos and engaging in "wiener measuring" contests by who has the most expensive 1911. Usually with 1911's the "inverse" principle is in play, i.e., the worst shots have the best guns. Sort of like the fat balding 60 yr. old who drives a Ferrari like a Dodge Dart, or the guy who drives the 70K SUV, has the fancy walnut range case with all the bells & whistles and then shoots a 12" group at 15 yds. with a Wilson.....slow fire. They then post on the Internet of how great it shoots. "best 4K I've ever spent!! Ragged hole at 2 yds!!"

Wow, could you possibly be any more clueless than you are.

[caraker0341]

The 1911 is for tinkerers and hobbyists who enjoy a plethora of parts to dick with and adjustments to be made.

Glock is for people who need their tools to work every time, no qestions asked.

[ilgunguygt]

Originally Posted by Tiro Fijo

That's becuause many of the 1911 fanboys here on GT are not real shooters. They like to sit around and choke each other's gopher by talking about pretty photos and engaging in "wiener measuring" contests by who has the most expensive 1911. Usually with 1911's the "inverse" principle is in play, i.e., the worst shots have the best guns. Sort of like the fat balding 60 yr. old who drives a Ferrari like a Dodge Dart, or the guy who drives the 70K SUV, has the fancy walnut range case with all the bells & whistles and then shoots a 12" group at 15 yds. with a Wilson.....slow fire. They then post on the Internet of how great it shoots. "best 4K I've ever spent!! Ragged hole at 2 yds!!"

And jealousy rears its ugly head.

You told us more about yourself in that post than you could ever imagine, and never used the word "I."

[mongo356]

Originally Posted by Wyoming

So what? Have you ever shot a Glock 18? I have. first shot hit the others waisted. Fun yes. Practical no.

Have you notice that no government issue machine pistol?

1- aren't you the lone ranger then shot a G18, oh boy thats special- had the opportunity a couple of times and passed didn't really care.

2- careful you sure? wouldn't it be useful say around a entry shield?

[mongo356]

Originally Posted by Tiro Fijo

That's becuause many of the 1911 fanboys here on GT are not real shooters. They like to sit around and choke each other's gopher by talking about pretty photos and engaging in "wiener measuring" contests by who has the most expensive 1911. Usually with 1911's the "inverse" principle is in play, i.e., the worst shots have the best guns. Sort of like the fat balding 60 yr. old who drives a Ferrari like a Dodge Dart, or the guy who drives the 70K SUV, has the fancy walnut range case with all the bells & whistles and then shoots a 12" group at 15 yds. with a Wilson.....slow fire. They then post on the Internet of how great it shoots. "best 4K I've ever spent!! Ragged hole at 2 yds!!"

OUTSTANDING!!!! Sir I was thinking it but still trying to bite my tongue and not say it. Hey everyone look at what I have, it's a French model cause I paid out the nose for it. Congrats

[Marshall Dillon]

I own, shoot and enjoy guns from both camps and appreciate what they both contributed to the firearms community.

[427]

For the ignorant;

Tales of the Gun - The Guns of Browning - YouTube

Tales of the Gun - The Guns of Browning - YouTube

[mongo356]

Originally Posted by Wyoming

I have owned and shot 1911's for decades and a well made 1911 is for me an easy gun to shoot.

News flash- it's easier for anyone to shoot, that's part of the draw to it & why most people think 1911's (or any single action trigger pull) are so good.

The 1911 triggers are nice they will never be a Glock trigger, they weren't DESIGNED that way.

[countrygun]

Originally Posted by Tiro Fijo

That's becuause many of the 1911 fanboys here on GT are not real shooters. They like to sit around and choke each other's gopher by talking about pretty photos and engaging in "wiener measuring" contests by who has the most expensive 1911. Usually with 1911's the "inverse" principle is in play, i.e., the worst shots have the best guns. Sort of like the fat balding 60 yr. old who drives a Ferrari like a Dodge Dart, or the guy who drives the 70K SUV, has the fancy walnut range case with all the bells & whistles and then shoots a 12" group at 15 yds. with a Wilson.....slow fire. They then post on the Internet of how great it shoots. "best 4K I've ever spent!! Ragged hole at 2 yds!!"

I am so impressed by the inroads Glock has made in centerfire bullseye matches, FYI that is a type of shooting where accuracy counts, you Glockers may never have heard of it.