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02-08-2013, 08:34
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Originally Posted by lawman800
LAPD foot patrol requires the wearing of the Class A hat, but no appointment.  |
Given the situation, the policy should immediately be revised to substitute the Class A hat for a level IIIA or better helmet.
Stay safe, guys.
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02-08-2013, 08:36
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Is he running? Or is he drawing the enemy in?
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02-08-2013, 08:41
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Fenced In
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Originally Posted by SAR
Quick update: I'm ok. It's a little hectic. Our Division is fully involved. Since the suspect is still outstanding, I am not at liberty to discuss our involvement. Suffice to say, I'm getting very little sleep. Hope to have more later.
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Watch your ass, man, and good hunting.
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02-08-2013, 09:04
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#54
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NRA Life Member
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Why do police think he may be in Arizona?
Something specific or just to kill leos at random?
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02-08-2013, 10:01
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Street Person
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They aren't going to tell the public.
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02-08-2013, 10:09
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#56
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Originally Posted by blueiron
They aren't going to tell the public.
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No way in hell they should say anything.
Sorry John Q. Public, but just stay hunkered down and wait.
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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02-08-2013, 10:16
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Originally Posted by ICARRY2
Why do police think he may be in Arizona?
Something specific or just to kill leos at random?
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I don't think anyone has been killed/shot at random. He published a list* of folks that he wants to go after, and it sounds like there have been a few moments of "opportunity" when he thought a few cops were close to him.
Regardless of how irrational his actions are, so far he seems to be behaving rationally within his own set of rules. Not randomly, I think, or there would be a lot more news of people hurt or killed.
Not that I have any insight, I'm just a keyboard commando. I'm not in that area, and I'm not LEO, so my opinions weigh very little.
For those who ARE involved, I'm not sure how you keep your head down AND on a swivel, but do your best to do both.
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02-08-2013, 10:18
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#58
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CLM Number 182
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Originally Posted by Detectorist
The fact is this guy has been pushed to the edge. He lost his LEO job. He lost his Navy reserve job. He also feels he was falsely accused of lying. So the three things that were apparently important or indispensable to him are gone. He has nothing else to live for.
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I think those forced that caused his displacement from center to the "edge" where wholly internal. CLEARLY, he is grossly unbalanced. He has interpreted actions and statements that are made tens of thousands of times over daily to other people who don't decide the world is oblong and want to fix it.
Unfortunately, life is not like TV. We can't follow the script from "NCIS L.A." or CSI to catch this guy. Chances are, if he's not already seriously wounded or dead, he is going to cause some collateral damage and hurt before he is put down.
Guys, be alert.
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02-08-2013, 10:19
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...hopefully he does not have access to secure police comms...
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02-08-2013, 10:24
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Mr. CISSP, CISA
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I am not a fan of drones for "normal patrols", but this is not normal.
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02-08-2013, 10:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gallium
Unfortunately, life is not like TV. We can't follow the script from "NCIS L.A."
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Speaking of that show, does anyone else see a resemblance to LL Cool J? 
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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02-08-2013, 11:01
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Stay safe
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02-08-2013, 11:05
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Be safe guys.
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02-08-2013, 11:19
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My wife is supposed to travel to San Diego for a baptism this weekend. I wasn't planning on going with her and dragging the kids with, but now I don't know. I know the chances of running into this tool are slim, but still...
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02-08-2013, 11:28
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CLM Number 182
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RussP
Speaking of that show, does anyone else see a resemblance to LL Cool J? |
Dammit you made me go look.
No. Apart from the fact that they are both black...
From an article I saw... (his words)
http://www.heavy.com/regions/2013/02...o-monica-quan/
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. I have the inventory listing of all UC vehicles at Piper Tech and the home addresses of any INT analyst at JRIC and detachment locations
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02-08-2013, 11:31
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Xtra CoCheese
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RIP to the fallen officer and prayers for full recovery for the others. Watch your backs. If it has gotten too hot at home and he has crossed state lines he may have abandoned his original plan and be out to cause as much mayhem as possible before he goes down.
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02-08-2013, 11:33
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CLM Number 182
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Call me cynical (last post for now) but I suspect he is getting help street side.
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02-08-2013, 11:35
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Brew Crew
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RussP
Speaking of that show, does anyone else see a resemblance to LL Cool J? |
I see it.
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02-08-2013, 12:21
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Mr. Awesome
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Another bad part for LAPD, is there are no shortage of allies Dorner can employ. There are a lot of people who hate the police.
Hopefully, they can keep a hot trail on him. If the trail is lost and he is not found, it's going to be a long spring. Meanwhile, he can just sit back and laugh. The last known (published) sighting was quite a while ago.
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02-08-2013, 12:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WarCry
In my completely inexpert opinion, it looks like a 9mm or .40, but definitely not a .22 if the coin really is 2" across.
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5.56 mm? Without the coin's outside dimension, it's tough to determine. The oblong hit on the left looks like two rounds.
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Originally Posted by Gallium
Call me cynical (last post for now) but I suspect he is getting help street side.
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...or specific help to go underground for a while.... let the heat taper off and provide time to change his appearance.
HH
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02-08-2013, 12:33
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harborrat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gallium
Call me cynical (last post for now) but I suspect he is getting help street side.
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He has a cult following developing on the internet and this is probably going to be the case, if not already.
CNN just had comments from one of their journalists that "these things need to be talked about", referring to and giving credence to the ramblings in his manifesto.
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02-08-2013, 13:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skorper
CNN just had comments from one of their journalists that "these things need to be talked about", referring to and giving credence to the ramblings in his manifesto.
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I absolutely, 100% agree with this.....
...that's what after-action reviews are for, and not a moment sooner.
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"If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?" --Thomas Jefferson
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02-08-2013, 13:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HoldHard
5.56 mm? Without the coin's outside dimension, it's tough to determine. The oblong hit on the left looks like two rounds.
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My estimates are based on what I know of these types of coins (my knowledge is military, not police) and the statement that Bill Bratton said about them, that the coins are usually 1.5 - 2 inches.
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"If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?" --Thomas Jefferson
Proud owner of G23 and G72
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02-08-2013, 13:06
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If what he claims is true (rampant open racism within the LAPD), it would have been public a long time ago. LAPD has a very large number of minority officers, supervisors and commanders. They wouldn't be sitting idly by when officers are acting the way Dorner claims. What I think happened is a couple off-color jokes (okay, pun slightly intended) that the "victims" were in on, and a willing part of because they aren't thinskinned crybabies. Dorner is a crybaby and an underperformer who couldn't handle streetwork, modern life and people wo don't fit his narrow definition of what they should be. He's also a documented, proven liar.
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02-08-2013, 13:14
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I wouldn't be surprised to see random attacks on LAPD officers by street a-holes, under the assumption that it is Dorner.
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