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Old 02-09-2013, 20:57   #1
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Is +P 9mm ok to use in the G19 gen4

With all the ammo disappearing rapidly here in New Jersey, I was thinking of picking up some +P ammo which seems somewhat available. Can the Glock handle a good dose of it? Thanks!
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Old 02-09-2013, 21:08   #2
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Yes you can shoot +p and +P+ by the truckload and your Glock will not even break a sweat.
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Old 02-09-2013, 21:19   #3
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Yes you can shoot +p and +P+ by the truckload and your Glock will not even break a sweat.
This!
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Old 02-09-2013, 21:21   #4
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What they said.
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Old 02-09-2013, 21:23   #6
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Yes. No problems.
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Old 02-09-2013, 21:23   #7
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You will most likely run out of money or available ammunition long before the G19 has issues related to +p ammunition.
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Old 02-09-2013, 21:27   #8
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I've shot a ton of +P through my Glocks.

Plus, Glocks are generally designed for LE and MIL use, where +P pressures are possibly all the guns ever see.
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Old 02-10-2013, 06:12   #9
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9mm Glocks are designed for NATO spec ammo, which is hotter than +P. Your Glock will handle more +P than you can ever afford to buy.
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:21   #10
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9mm Glocks are designed for NATO spec ammo, which is hotter than +P. Your Glock will handle more +P than you can ever afford to buy.
This comes up on a regular basis on the web. I'd like for someone to show some documentation from Glock that says that they were designed for NATO spec ammo. I'd also like to see documentation that NATO spec 9mm ammo is "hotter" than +P because I don't think that it is or it would be marked +P+. Who's got the proof? Let's all see it.
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This comes up on a regular basis on the web. I'd like for someone to show some documentation from Glock that says that they were designed for NATO spec ammo. I'd also like to see documentation that NATO spec 9mm ammo is "hotter" than +P because I don't think that it is or it would be marked +P+. Who's got the proof? Let's all see it.
I don't have "documentation", but researched the NATO stuff a while back and found it to be same-same-water-buffalo as +P.

As far as Glock engineers are concerned, documentation might be a bit hard to pry from their fingers.
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:29   #12
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In 1982, Glock designed the G17 to meet the NATO spec requirement of the military contract, which they won. Glock 9's have been designed for NATO spec ever since. Remember, Glock is a global company, and most other countries use NATO spec 9mm ammo.
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Winchester 124-gr NATO Spec = 1,185fps

Gold Dot 124-gr +P = 1,220 fps

Blazer 124-gr FMJ = 1,080 fps
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:53   #14
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Winchester 124-gr NATO Spec = 1,185fps

Gold Dot 124-gr +P = 1,220 fps

Blazer 124-gr FMJ = 1,080 fps
On the surface it seems that the Nato spec is at the +P level not "hotter than +P+" but that's not the end of the story. Pressure is the determining factor in the +P designation not fps. The jury is still out.
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Old 02-10-2013, 11:51   #15
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Go for it. Your G19 won't even break a sweat.
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Old 02-10-2013, 13:26   #16
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Thanks guys! That makes me feel better, now to get some ammo! What the heck is going on with all the bullets missing, especially 9mm? Is this the new version of the "gas crisis"? Does anyone know a good supplier who has ammo and is not gouging?
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Old 02-10-2013, 16:05   #17
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Try MidwayUSA.
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Old 02-10-2013, 17:07   #18
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It's not the manufacturers. It is the paranoid, panic stricken gun owners that are buying up all available ammo, including .22LR.
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It's not the manufacturers. It is the paranoid, panic stricken gun owners that are buying up all available ammo, including .22LR.
The buyers recognize that we have a very anti-gun POTUS who in not concerned about getting re-elected. If it weren't for the GOP HR, I'd say that our gun rights are in serious trouble.
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Old 03-09-2013, 13:50   #20
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Is everybody aware of Glock's stated position on this?
"Glock suggests using ammunition that is manufactured and meets SAAMI or industry specifications. If you are not sure the ammunition brand or type you choose is safe for use, call the ammunition manufacturer and ask if the product meets SAAMI guidelines before using it in you firearm. Some +P ammunition meets these guidelines, +P+ normally does not. This ammunition may generate a higher pressure over the standard loadings, and may shorten the component life of your firearm."

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