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Old 02-17-2013, 09:01   #41
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:19   #42
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First, this has nothing to do with the so called republicans war on women.
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Yes, it does. It's the exact same thing. You are the equivalent of every gullible liberal that thought there was a war on women.


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If you notice, it's the southern white male that's resisting the liberal welfare state the most. It's the southern white male that resists the homofication of American society
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There are more white males in the south on welfare than any other demographic in the country. Households in the south headed by white males represent the largest percentage of welfare users in the entire country. Are you even able to comprehend this simple fact?

And yes, before you point it out, I'm aware that blacks, on a per capita basis, use these programs more. I'm talking about the total number of recipients.





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Old 02-17-2013, 09:25   #43
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There are more white males in the south on welfare than any other demographic in the country. Households in the south headed by white males represent the largest percentage of welfare users in the entire country. Are you even able to comprehend this simple fact?

And yes, before you point it out, I'm aware that blacks, on a per capita basis, use these programs more. I'm talking about the total number of recipients.

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Old 02-17-2013, 09:35   #44
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It doesn't bother you that you have to ignore quanitative analysis to support your contention?
Lol. You think aggregates are irrelevant in analyzing demographics? Well, I shouldn't be surprised. Look who I'm talking to.

This idea that southern white males are resisting the welfare state is delusional. There are more of them on the teet than anyone else.


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Lol. You think aggregates are irrelevant in analyzing demographics? Well, I shouldn't be surprised. Look who I'm talking to.

This idea that southern white males are resisting the welfare state is delusional. There are more of them on the teet than anyone else.


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This idea that southern white males are resisting the welfare state is delusional. There are more of them on the teet than anyone else.
BUT, the southern white males that are NOT on welfare are the ones resisting the welfare state the most.

They're the ones constantly ridiculed and made fun of by our liberal controlled society.

They're the biggest threat to Obama's plan to put everyone on the government payroll, and that's why they're attacked the most.

Who do you think Obama was talking about when he said "bitter clingers and their guns and religion"?

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Everytime you post, I understand more and more, how Obama got elected, not once, but twice.
I assume that's your way of admitting you were wrong. After all, I think the above sentence, in one form or another, represents about 50% of your replies to my posts (or anyone's posts that you don't like).

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BUT, the southern white males that are NOT on welfare are the ones resisting the welfare state the most.
Okay, so what? You're still ignoring the fact that the welfare state is embraced, quite readily, by the demographic that you claim is the biggest resistance to it. You will do anything to rationalize this view of America you have that simply doesn't exist. It's not true, not in the slightest sense.

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They're the ones constantly ridiculed and made fun of by our liberal controlled society.

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I don't disagree with you there.

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They're the biggest threat to Obama's plan to put everyone on the government payroll, and that's why they're attacked the most.
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I would say that they're also the biggest threat to the republican party. Some of them, anyway. Social conservatives have the ability to do more damage to the party than anyone else. The last election was a good example. As long as you have that small minority, they are going to be paraded around by the media in an attempt to paint them as the norm.
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As a white, Southern male, I have to agree with Ivan on this. Even if you put aside the religious elements and focus on the pragmatic issues, this white Southern male demographic has supported big government through their unquestioning uniform and flag worship every step of the way. They support granting government unprecedented powers as long as drugs or terrorism is used as the motive. They support the Patriot Act and then wonder why a government thus empowered can enact gun control. In general, this is a group not particularly savvy in terms of pattern recognition. They are willing to sacrifice the fourth amendment and then wonder why the tenth and second are under attack. It's a group that is reliably pro-police, pro-prohibition, and pro-military adventurism in foreign policy. Then they sit around scratching their heads and looking for scapegoats as to why we have the largest and most expensive government in history.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:57   #49
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As a white, Southern male, I have to agree with Ivan on this. Even if you put aside the religious elements and focus on the pragmatic issues, this white Southern male demographic has supported big government through their unquestioning uniform and flag worship every step of the way. They support granting government unprecedented powers as long as drugs or terrorism is used as the motive. They support the Patriot Act and then wonder why a government thus empowered can enact gun control. In general, this is a group not particularly savvy in terms of pattern recognition. They are willing to sacrifice the fourth amendment and then wonder why the tenth and second are under attack. It's a group that is reliably pro-police, pro-prohibition, and pro-military adventurism in foreign policy. Then they sit around scratching their heads and looking for scapegoats as to why we have the largest and most expensive government in history.
I don't disagree with all of it, but that is a pretty broad brush you are painting with there. I think your theory centers around that population being more or less uneducated, and that is no longer the case en toto.
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There are more white males in the south on welfare than any other demographic in the country. Households in the south headed by white males represent the largest percentage of welfare users in the entire country. Are you even able to comprehend this simple fact?
Looks like the Democrat wealth redistribution scheme backfired.
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Old 02-17-2013, 11:49   #51
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...There are more white males in the south on welfare than any other demographic in the country. Households in the south headed by white males represent the largest percentage of welfare users in the entire country...
Then how come all that poor white trash doesn't have the same political clout that the blacks on welfare do?
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Then how come all that poor white trash doesn't have the same political clout that the blacks on welfare do?
There wasn't a poor white trash civil rights movement in the 60's that set out to make poor white trash the pets of white liberals. There isn't a whole industry of poor white trash marketing experts who make a living keeping that going, like Jesse and Al do. Just bad public relations.
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I don't disagree with all of it, but that is a pretty broad brush you are painting with there. I think your theory centers around that population being more or less uneducated, and that is no longer the case en toto.
Just to clarify, I don't think the dynamic I describe has anything to do with education level. I think it's more cultural. There remains in the South a deep and rather ironic identification with the state, manifesting more overtly in 'patriotism' and the worship of 'law enforcement', and more subtly in voting patterns and the enabling of big, intrusive government. Also ironic, historically speaking, is the current widespread support of prohibition.
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Just to clarify, I don't think the dynamic I describe has anything to do with education level. I think it's more cultural. There remains in the South a deep and rather ironic identification with the state, manifesting more overtly in 'patriotism' and the worship of 'law enforcement', and more subtly in voting patterns and the enabling of big, intrusive government. Also ironic, historically speaking, is the current widespread support of prohibition.
I understand your point. I guess it depends on what part of the South you are from. While Patriotism is a rampant theme from my family structure, moonshining was also a big part of family history going less deeply back than one might think. Worship of law enforcement and support of prohibition was really not part of the culture I grew up in (although drinking in church was widely discouraged!).
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Just to clarify, I don't think the dynamic I describe has anything to do with education level. I think it's more cultural. There remains in the South a deep and rather ironic identification with the state, manifesting more overtly in 'patriotism' and the worship of 'law enforcement', and more subtly in voting patterns and the enabling of big, intrusive government. Also ironic, historically speaking, is the current widespread support of prohibition.
I don't think you know very much about the south that didn't come from your imagination.
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Wow! Poor white trash.

Who'd a thought?

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As a white, Southern male, I have to agree with Ivan on this. Even if you put aside the religious elements and focus on the pragmatic issues, this white Southern male demographic has supported big government through their unquestioning uniform and flag worship every step of the way. They support granting government unprecedented powers as long as drugs or terrorism is used as the motive. They support the Patriot Act and then wonder why a government thus empowered can enact gun control. In general, this is a group not particularly savvy in terms of pattern recognition. They are willing to sacrifice the fourth amendment and then wonder why the tenth and second are under attack. It's a group that is reliably pro-police, pro-prohibition, and pro-military adventurism in foreign policy. Then they sit around scratching their heads and looking for scapegoats as to why we have the largest and most expensive government in history.
Agreed. It's interesting that the states who are relatively decent on guns are also strict to harsh on dope: Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, and South Carolina.
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Agreed. It's interesting that the states who are relatively decent on guns are also strict to harsh on dope: Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, and South Carolina.
And isn't it funny that Washington State, after "legalizing" MJ under "personal freedom" is considering some very harsh gun laws?
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