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Old 02-18-2013, 11:31   #41
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So I can buy a conversion barrel(s) and shoot those different calibers in a Glock 10mm model but not a Glock 45acp model?
Check out these Lone Wolf conversion barrels

G20 can easily convert to .40 S&W, .357 Sig, 9X25

G21 can easily convert to .40 Super, .400 CorBon,

http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Products.aspx?CAT=241
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Old 02-18-2013, 16:40   #42
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Yeah big meplat hard lead loads are pretty cool.
I want some - where do I go to get some?
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Old 02-18-2013, 17:54   #43
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You must understand that the 10mm, even in its midpower loadings (Silvertip and Hornady 180 XTP) is too much for the average police officer to handle. By too much I mean recoil and the associated muzzle blast.
Which means this puts the 10mm at a disadvantage.



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With the .40 s&w, you get a "downloaded" 10mm bullet with a smaller grip frame, and in a G22 you get 15 plus 1 bullets.
Which has been proven plenty effective without all the extra recoil, platform size, and over inflated ego's.

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That having said, there is nothing wrong with a good old .45 ACP. Shoot what you want and enjoy!
I agree.
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Old 02-18-2013, 20:11   #44
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I just may get a G21.
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Old 02-18-2013, 21:47   #45
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:06   #46
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Which hurts more... getting run over by a 5 ton truck or a 10 ton truck?
Which would hurt more... falling 60 feet or falling 80 feet?
Sorry... I couldn't resist.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:14   #47
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Which packs more punch, the 10mm or the 45acp?
To answer your question, the 10MM.
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To answer your question, the 10MM.
Which loading? The .40 S&W equivalent or the original hot loading?
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Which means this puts the 10mm at a disadvantage.
Yes, but oniy as far as weaker shooters are concerned.

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Which has been proven plenty effective without all the extra recoil, platform size, and over inflated ego's.
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I agree.
We agree!
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Which loading? The .40 S&W equivalent or the original hot loading?
Never the .40 equivalent, well, almost never!
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Old 02-19-2013, 13:13   #51
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You can handload a 10mm down with light loads to get .45acp performance, but you cannot load a .45 up to 10mm performance.

You can also leave out the last two rounds of ammo in a 10mm Glock 20 magazine and have the same capacity (13) as a .45 Glock 21 mag, but you cannot load 2 more rounds into the .45 mag to bring its capacity up to that of the 10mm (15) without a mag extension.

You can hit "minute of pieplate" at 100 yards with only 5" of holdover with a 10mm, but you can't do that with a .45 (You'd need almost 20 inches of holdover to do that with the 45).

You'll also be delivering more energy at 100 yards with the 10 than a .45 does at the muzzle.


I could go on.

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Never the .40 equivalent, well, almost never!
I wonder why such a weak load of the 10mm was ever introduced - for a weaker autoloader?
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Numbers only, the 10mm. In real life? Either will work for 2 legged predators. I own both and rarely shoot full house 10mm loads. Just no need for punching paper.

I shoot my 1911 in .45ACP a lot more and never feel a want for more power. Get both and then the argument is moot.
I had both until my son's future wife found out The G21 was his so I took it to Texas. Future wife wanted it for house protection, she carries a 380. So now I am in the market for a 45 acp for me. I also have the G20 and S&W 629 44 Mag.
+1 on get both. My son would also like my FAL in Texas
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I wonder why such a weak load of the 10mm was ever introduced - for a weaker autoloader?
Think it's more about - the weaker shooter. At least that's what I've been lead to believe. If the FBI, had stayed with it, or, one of the special forces adopted the 10, I believe it would be a much more popular caliber. For the life of me, don't/can't understand why it's not the choice of many. It is mine!
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If you are relatively new to this I will jump out and say go with .45 ammo should be a little easier to get an a little less expensive. 10mm would afford you a bit wider swing in ammo intensity... As in you can get full house ugly loads that you really won't like shooting on a regular basis or loaded just like a low end .40. But you are going to pay for it. 10mm is not cheep.
If you want to shoot 10mm a lot, you need to handload. I handload both for 10mm and 45 acp but for 45 acp Walmart is a cheap source of 45 acp or used to be. 45 acp is much easier to get than 10mm in loaded form.
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If you want to shoot 10mm a lot, you need to handload. I handload both for 10mm and 45 acp but for 45 acp Walmart is a cheap source of 45 acp or used to be. 45 acp is much easier to get than 10mm in loaded form.
http://www.underwoodammo.com/10mmauto.aspx

It is always wise to reload, no matter the caliber, but one doesn't have too, or need to rely on walmart for 10MM ammo.
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Think it's more about - the weaker shooter. At least that's what I've been lead to believe. If the FBI, had stayed with it, or, one of the special forces adopted the 10, I believe it would be a much more popular caliber. For the life of me, don't/can't understand why it's not the choice of many. It is mine!
Does any ammo maker offer full-power 10mm Auto ammo? Corbon maybe.
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Does any ammo maker offer full-power 10mm Auto ammo? Corbon maybe.
They are currently out of stock, but you need to look no further, and, that is a good price. Put them in your favorites cache, and check when they return to in stock. Take a look at their lineup, and the velocity is marked for each offering. Yes, it's real "10" ammo!

http://www.underwoodammo.com/10mmauto.aspx
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Does any ammo maker offer full-power 10mm Auto ammo? Corbon maybe.
None of the major manufacturers.

One reason why I sold mine and went .45 ACP.

Availability doesn't even begin to compare
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None of the major manufacturers.

One reason why I sold mine and went .45 ACP.

Availability doesn't even begin to compare
I guess that one has to be a reloader to fully load the 10mm cartridge.
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