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Old 02-17-2013, 17:51   #21
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When I first saw that, I immediately thought of the time JBinTx posted that he used to be for Ron Paul (before he was against him).
I tried to support Ron Paul, but his foreign policy ineptness and his liberal drug legalization ideas were deal breakers for me.

At least I had the good sense to cast a vote for Romney and not sit home whining about corrupt politicians and everything that's wrong in America.

At least I tried to change things instead of denying the republicans a much needed vote, thus ensuring Obama the win.

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Old 02-17-2013, 17:55   #22
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I suppose those in NY are far more concerned about Gov Cuomo than President Obama. From a national perspective, far reaching gun restrictions don't have a chance. Notice the President's words during the SOU? He kept repeating, ".....deserves a vote." Interesting choice of words. If the President knew an AWB had a chance, he would have used much stronger language.

But back to my initial statement. I'd be far more concerned about what legislation states pass than what the President and Congress want to pass.
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Old 02-17-2013, 18:09   #23
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This is all for the sake of argument and the Democrat vs Republican pradigm. The biggest assaults and infringements on the 2A are coming at the state level, not the Feds. The Federal Bills are distractions while they get their agendas passed in states that they have the support. I think thats where the front lines are and where the anti-gunners look to do the most damage.

If Romney were POTUS, Feinswine would still have her AWB, the Mag. capacity ban would still be on the table, and it's possible Romney would sign one if not both of them, given what he said in the past and the anti-gun state from which he hails. Mittens only acted pro-gun to pander to the GOP voting base, he was no more pro gun than Obama.

Slamming the left leaning GTers isn't the right way, I think all of you made a bad choice back in November.
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Old 02-17-2013, 20:06   #24
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So since Republicans have the House, there will be no new gun control, correct? What's the problem then?
You miss the very obvious point, that only democrats are introducing gun control legislation. The thread is about WHO is sponsoring such legislation. Do you not get that???
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Old 02-17-2013, 20:09   #25
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You miss the very obvious point, that only democrats are introducing gun control legislation. The thread is about WHO is sponsoring such legislation. Do you not get that???
Give it up. You are talking about "Principles" and liberals have no frame of reference for such a discussion.
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Old 02-17-2013, 21:10   #26
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Give it up. You are talking about "Principles" and liberals have no frame of reference for such a discussion.
No, I will not give it up until Gundude acknowledges who is sponsoring gun control legislation. GUNDUDE, CAN YOU HEAR ME??? I AM ONLY TALKING ABOUT WHO IS SPONSORING GUN CONTROL LEGISLATION, NOT IF IT WILL GET PASSED OR NOT.
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Old 02-17-2013, 21:12   #27
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Why do you assume all centrists are Democrat?

According to a political compass, i'm a centrist - leaning Libertarian.
No offense to you, a "centrist" on Glocktalk is someone who pretends to own guns, but most likely, does not based on their support for democrats.
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Old 02-17-2013, 21:17   #28
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“Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts. These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.”
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......BTW I still don't see any Federal 2A restrictions
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Old 02-17-2013, 21:33   #29
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Funny how all the cut-n-paste photoshop comes out when one can't answer a very simple question:

Since Republicans have the House, there will be no new gun control, correct?
There have always been anti-gun Republicans. There are ultimately no pro-gun Democrats.

ETA: I would bet even money on gun control passing.
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Old 02-17-2013, 22:17   #30
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Mitt Romney's name will not be acceptable because he did not sponsor a bill or even mention an assault weapon ban in 2012 or 2013.
Private citizens can't sponsor bills. Having said that, I sincerely doubt Romney would have signed an AWB had he won.




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Old 02-17-2013, 23:17   #31
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I sincerely doubt Romney would have signed an AWB had he won.

“Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts. These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.”

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Old 02-17-2013, 23:29   #32
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This is all for the sake of argument and the Democrat vs Republican pradigm. The biggest assaults and infringements on the 2A are coming at the state level, not the Feds. The Federal Bills are distractions while they get their agendas passed in states that they have the support. I think thats where the front lines are and where the anti-gunners look to do the most damage.

If Romney were POTUS, Feinswine would still have her AWB, the Mag. capacity ban would still be on the table, and it's possible Romney would sign one if not both of them, given what he said in the past and the anti-gun state from which he hails. Mittens only acted pro-gun to pander to the GOP voting base, he was no more pro gun than Obama.

Slamming the left leaning GTers isn't the right way, I think all of you made a bad choice back in November.
That's the way I see it too. The battle is being waged at the state level with the full drive and support from the progressive leaders nationally. Obama and the rest of the fed level progressive constitution shredders know the limits they will hit trying to do their evil at the federal level. Even though they know they will hit a wall trying to get federal anti 2nd legislation through, they have succeeded in diverting attention away from issues such as debt ceiling deals, Bengazi, crappy economic numbers...the real issues and failures.

Hard to say if we'd be seeing the same deal with the gun control issue if Mittens had won. I personally doubt it, but that's just speculation. However, the present administration cheer leading the anti gun movement is exactly what the republicans here said would happen and exactly what the Obama supporters here said wouldn't happen. It doesn't really matter if gun grabbing doesn't happen because the republican congress blocks it in that argument.
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Old 02-18-2013, 00:27   #33
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No, I will not give it up until Gundude acknowledges who is sponsoring gun control legislation. GUNDUDE, CAN YOU HEAR ME??? I AM ONLY TALKING ABOUT WHO IS SPONSORING GUN CONTROL LEGISLATION, NOT IF IT WILL GET PASSED OR NOT.
Yes, it's only Democrats sponsoring gun control legislation. The sun rises in the East, too. Why is that so much more important to you than the actual prospects of those bills becoming law?
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Old 02-18-2013, 00:30   #34
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That is all there is to it. Obama and his supporters were lying before the election, we knew it and called them out on it and he is proving we were right.
Wait, does that mean everybody who said Romney would win the election was lying, too?
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Old 02-18-2013, 01:03   #35
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Those damn dirty Democrats. Whenever will people learn that the Republicans really know what we want. Small government, less regulations right?

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Old 02-18-2013, 02:10   #36
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Those damn dirty Democrats. Whenever will people learn that the Republicans really know what we want. Small government, less regulations right?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...ef=mostpopular
Who said republicans are for small government?

Democrats and Republicans both have unaccecptable shortfalls with the direction of the county.
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:22   #37
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Wait, does that mean everybody who said Romney would win the election was lying, too?
You still can't prove Romney would push for gun control legislation, but I can prove that Obama is.

Typical liberal, the truth means nothing to you just what is in your imagination is all that counts to you.
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:26   #38
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Who said republicans are for small government?

Democrats and Republicans both have unaccecptable shortfalls with the direction of the county.

Yeah........they are all phu...ing politicians.
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So since Republicans have the House, there will be no new gun control, correct? What's the problem then?
The possibility that you guys will figure out a way to take over the House.
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Wait, does that mean everybody who said Romney would win the election was lying, too?
No, it means we were hopelessly deluded that we as a country had not already passed the tipping point and that 2008 was a fluke.

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