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Old 02-18-2013, 19:00   #1
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Door to Door searches for gun owners? Say it ain't so!

http://seattletimes.com/html/localne...neat17xml.html

from the article.

I spoke to two of the sponsors. One, Sen. Adam Kline, D-Seattle, a lawyer who typically is hyper-attuned to civil-liberties issues, said he did not know the bill authorized police searches because he had not read it closely before signing on.

“I made a mistake,” Kline said. “I frankly should have vetted this more closely.”

That lawmakers sponsor bills they haven’t read is common. Still, it’s disappointing on one of this political magnitude. Not counting a long table, it’s only an eight-page bill.

The prime sponsor, Sen. Ed Murray, D-Seattle, also condemned the search provision in his own bill, after I asked him about it. He said Palmer is right that it’s probably unconstitutional.

“I have to admit that shouldn’t be in there,” Murray said

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Old 02-18-2013, 19:58   #2
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What we really need is inspections of non-assault weapons owners' homes. You know, to make sure that they don't have any that they forgot to register.

It's good to see the Dems de-cloak. But remember, there's no difference between the two parties.
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Old 02-19-2013, 00:18   #3
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http://seattletimes.com/html/localne...neat17xml.html

from the article.

I spoke to two of the sponsors. One, Sen. Adam Kline, D-Seattle, a lawyer who typically is hyper-attuned to civil-liberties issues, said he did not know the bill authorized police searches because he had not read it closely before signing on.

“I made a mistake,” Kline said. “I frankly should have vetted this more closely.”

That lawmakers sponsor bills they haven’t read is common. Still, it’s disappointing on one of this political magnitude. Not counting a long table, it’s only an eight-page bill.

The prime sponsor, Sen. Ed Murray, D-Seattle, also condemned the search provision in his own bill, after I asked him about it. He said Palmer is right that it’s probably unconstitutional.

“I have to admit that shouldn’t be in there,” Murray said

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Is any state-based pro gun advocacy group, or even perhaps the ACLU going to do anything about this bill?
THis is an outrage!
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:40   #4
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If they really made a mistake, they can just as easily turn around and repeal the law. That is, if they are truly against searches like this by police.
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:54   #5
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Every lawmaker should be required to sign a sworn affidavit saying that they've read and understand a bill before they're allowed to vote on it, or even speak about it in public.

Don't they tell us that ignorance of the law is no excuse?
Then the same should be true for them.

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Old 02-19-2013, 07:14   #6
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The 'mistake' was they got caught...
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:17   #7
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The 'mistake' was they got caught...

Exactly.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:03   #8
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From the story even the bills indroducer is claiming they didn't know that was in the bill.

Why not just impeach them for incompetence.
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... But remember, there's no difference between the two parties.
And that is the truth.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:46   #10
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If they really made a mistake, they can just as easily turn around and repeal the law. That is, if they are truly against searches like this by police.
It's not a law. Only a bill whose sponsors don't even want passsed.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:33   #11
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yup...and shows how absolutely stupid and emotionally driven they are. They want to do something fast to infringe on 2nd ammendment rights without paying attention.
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