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Old 01-28-2014, 20:45   #1
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It's amazing the differece one day can make...

Since my LE Agency is allowing us to carry either a .9mm, .40S&W, or the .45ACP I decided to see what I could get for my G-23/27 and copious amount of mags. As of today I ordered a G-30SF and a G-19 (both in Gen-3) and traded my G-23/27 mags for G-30/19 mags. I have a G-26 that will get me through, as my present assignment doesn't require a full-size duty gun.

P.S...just heard today that the adjacent PD, which is slightly larger than ours is doing the same thing, they too are allowing choice of caliber--.9mm, .40S&W, or the .45ACP. Is this a national trend, or simply limited to my part of the dirt..?

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Old 01-29-2014, 09:44   #2
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This does seem a trend another recent trend is agencies switching to 9mm again from 40.
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Old 01-29-2014, 11:41   #3
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I suspect it's simply part of the normal ebb & flow of how things occur when it comes to equipment issues, particularly service weapon issues, among civilian LE agencies.

I was issued a .357 Magnum revolver and ammunition when I was hired ... but we could carry anything ranging from .38 Spl to .45 Colt/ACP in a revolver, and the 3 big revolver names were allowed.

Then, we followed the already established trend of adopting hi-cap 9's, and now everybody had to carry the issued guns.

Then, later on, we started introducing .40's, finally transitioning away from 9's for general use, going with both .40 & .45 ACP. (Choices remained very flexible for buying and using off-duty weapons and calibers, although qualifying was required.)

So, at one time or another I carried .357 Mag, 9mm, .40 S&W & .45 ACP as issued calibers.

Now, fast-forward to today, and folks are being allowed to either carry an issued gun, which will reportedly be expanded to again include 9mm, as well as .40 & .45, from one gun company ... with the option of now (once again) being allowed to buy their own duty weapon, choosing duty-type models from among 3 of the major gun companies, as long as the caliber is 9, .40 or .45 ACP.

I suspect 9mm will become a popular choice as the transition gets farther along, but that .40 & .45 will remain popular among a number of folks who have adapted themselves to those calibers in recent years.

If I were returning to full-time/active duty I'd probably choose a 9 from among the available issued weapons, letting the agency foot the bill, and call it a day.
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Old 01-29-2014, 11:54   #4
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I think most of us have been through the .40 phase... I'm just coming out of mine... Good to have a .40 or 2 during shortages, but anything I buy forward will be 9mm or .45ACP (and probably mostly 9mm).
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Old 01-29-2014, 12:05   #5
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It seems the die-hard .45 guys will always want .45s while the rest would just prefer 9mm over .40. I think .40 has peaked and is somewhat of a decline.

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Old 01-29-2014, 14:57   #6
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I think most of us have been through the .40 phase...
Yeah, not a bad way to put it, I suppose.

I held off on my interest in the .40 until it was apparent we were going to be adopting them at some point. I wanted to see how it did in LE circles, and I finally picked one up after an armorer class (SW9940), I took it to an outside agency multi-day training class when my agency approved taking it and offered to provide the ammo.

I was using the only SW9940 there, and among very few .40's. I remember a couple of guys using what they said were issued G35's, and that they were experiencing occasional stoppages on the ranges.

Now, I find I own 5 pistols chambered in .40 S&W, which equals what I own in 9mm.

I still own more .38 5-shot snubs than either 9's or .40's, though.

I also own more .45's than either 9's or .40's.

It is what it is, and duty/service calibers are all working pretty well nowadays.

At the end of the day it's still just a dedicated defensive pistol, using one of the common service calibers.

FWIW, I'm one of those guys who other folks always considered to be "die-hard .45 ACP" guys ... until they suddenly realized I wasn't.
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Old 01-29-2014, 14:58   #7
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Old 01-29-2014, 15:15   #8
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Location, location, location, it seems like everytime an agency switches from 40 to 9, another agency switches to 45 and another to 40. In Tennessee the 9mm is dead, I don't know of a single agency issuing 9mm. I can only think of about three that even allow a 9 as a duty weapon. TN is a strong supporter of 40s&w and then several agencies have 357sig, probably as much as 10%. I would say 50% have 40's in TN. We only have one agency in TN using 45GAP and word is they are going to 40. Now, Georgia is another story, there is almost the same amount of 40,45gap, and 45acp agencies but I still dont know of an agency requiring 9mm. I do not know of a single agency using 357sig exclusively in GA. Word is that GA state patrol will be back to Glock 17s in just a few months.

Edit: I have seen two new agencies in TN get stood up or armed in the last five years and both chose Glocks in 40.
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Old 01-30-2014, 18:03   #9
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If I were returning to full-time/active duty I'd probably choose a 9 from among the available issued weapons, letting the agency foot the bill, and call it a day.
that's exactly what I did, started out with the .40s&w, now carry the .9mm.
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