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Old 03-17-2013, 12:23   #1
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SHTF...What supplies would you trade for booze?

I see tons of threads where people are stock piling booze to trade for SHTF items they didn't purchase.

Here is my question, if you were out of booze and desperate for a drink, what critical supplies would you be willing to trade to quinch your thirst during SHTF?

For me...NOTHING!

I'm a light, light drinker.

Booze is the last thing I would need during SHTF.

What would you trade your guns, ammo, food, water or medicine for?

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Old 03-17-2013, 12:47   #2
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Depending on the situation, high proof would be useful for multiple purposes -

antiseptic, fuel for stove, fuel for engine, weapon (m-cocktail) to think of a few.

I don't drink, so I'd only trade for the above. And really probably only the first purpose. In the absence of good hygiene and health care, wound/bite infection is likely to take a larger toll that we have expect. The second is useful (alcohol burns without smoke or odor), so if you need to have fire for cooking or warmth and don't want others to know, that would be a good secondary usage that is perhaps worth trading for.

What I'd trade... depends on what I have and what I think I can replenish or what I don't need in the near future.
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Old 03-17-2013, 15:09   #3
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I try to not underestimate what an addict will do for his drug of choice, whatever that substance might be. It really depends on what type of SHTF you are talking about. A localized short term event, I would consider trading some food for an expensive bottle of good bourbon. A long term even would be different.

I make my own mead because I like the taste better than store bought. Many people make wine or beer. If you can do this, distilling it into alcohol is not magic and most could build a still from scrounged material as long as they have a little basic knowledge.
If you have sufficient supplies to make beer, wine or mead, you can make your own alcohol in a long term SHTF.
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Old 03-17-2013, 15:26   #4
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What would I trade...nothing.

I have a case of cheapish vodka...I have a case of cheapish Whiskey.

then I have a few bottles of decent bourbon (my booze of choice).

I like beer. Once a year I tie one on big time usually around a party or wedding. This said I could go the rest of my life starting tomorrow never drinking again...

booze just isn't a priority.
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Old 03-17-2013, 15:38   #5
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My "Hurricane" supplies are plenty of ammo, bourbon, and cigars. And propane. As of today, for SHTF scenario , I am in good shape on ammo, but am lacking on the others. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. However, i would only trade alcohol for (which I would have) for anything for life, or strategic purposes.
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Old 03-17-2013, 15:43   #6
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I see tons of threads where people are stock piling booze to trade for SHTF items they didn't purchase.

Here is my question, if you were out of booze and desperate for a drink, what critical supplies would you be willing to trade to quinch your thirst during SHTF?

For me...NOTHING!

I'm a light, light drinker.

Booze is the last thing I would need during SHTF.

What would you trade your guns, ammo, food, water or medicine for?
I wouldn't either.

Nor would I trade for tobacoo/cigarettes/whatever.

But that doesn't mean other people would [not]. Even right now other people trade (things, to include money) for all sorts of things I don't want.
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Old 03-17-2013, 17:04   #7
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I basically stock isopropyl & reagent grade alcohol..

..best not to ingest either!


I do not drink..

..nor do I actively associate with anyone who does!

(I personally do not use tobacco products, refrain from using even prescribed drugs, etc....or even drink coffee)


If ever a bad SHTF....

..I figure we would have enough to concern ourselves about..

..besides somebody in our COFF seriously compromised and/or willing to sacrifice just about anything to get their next fix of "whatever"!


If there was someone in our circle with that weakness...

..they would need to detox completely before I would trust them with anything of importance.



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Old 03-17-2013, 18:50   #8
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Got guns...........take da booze along wi da women!
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Old 03-17-2013, 19:38   #9
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There are people out there who NEED alcohol or caffeine.


Then there are people who know that caffeine and alcohol are drugs.

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I think most people will have a harder time stepping away from the caffeine. If in doubt, swap out the pot of decaff or the caff coffee on Monday. Then sit back and watch the fun.
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Old 03-17-2013, 19:44   #10
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I do not drink....nor do I actively associate with anyone who does!
So you don't associate with people who casually drink....hmm.
Didn't expect that.



I see a difference between someone who has a drink or two and a drunk.

BTW, Jesus drank.
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I agree with Blue

And I do drink, but not much, and not often. I strongly dislike being intoxicated, even just moderately, due to the lessening of my ability to do things. From a preparedness angle not being fit to drive a car for even just a few hours, alone, is a serious liability, it would seem.
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Old 03-17-2013, 20:02   #12
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On other uses, a gallon of captain morgan is about $65, a gallon of 99% Isopropyl Alcohol is about $23, a gallon of gas is about $4.



On people that drink, it seems every time we have this thread, a few people assume that everyone that drinks is an alcoholic and can't stop. It's hard to put into words how wrong that is. Most, I'd guess more then 95%, of the people I know that drink, drink on the weekend and would simply stop in shtf. This includes me.
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Old 03-17-2013, 20:22   #13
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Even if you drink every day, quitting can be done. It takes a desire and a will, plus the ability to make it through withdrawal if there are any.

I know guys that have a couple (sometimes more) bottles of beer every night. They are not alcoholics and can stop at anytime. There is no dependance.

However, I know a few people that are dependant on alcohol. They can give it up, but they have to make the choice to do so. These few people that I know would likely be willing to trade a few things for a couple gallons.

I have been known to have a drink from time to time, and enjoy a good craft beer. However, if things were to crash and burn around me I could do without and never look back.

Like others have said, the main use for alcohol in a crisis would be for fuel/fire purposes and cleansing.
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We bought a box (6 bottles) of rum in the Virgin Islands and never really got around to drinking any of it. Guess it's preps now, buried in the back of the pantry, out of sight and out of mind.
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Old 03-17-2013, 21:47   #15
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Ever get to know someone who lived through the depression then WWII with the rationing??

Wife #1 and I were helping her grandmother (a total tea totaling Pentecost) clean out a backroom of her house. That's where we found ~30 cases of Old Grand Dad in pints, wife was shocked and asked her why she had so much booze. She said during WWII just because you had ration stamps and money you couldn't always get what you needed; but throw in a pint of whiskey and things suddenly appeared, and during the depression sometimes all that was needed was a bottle of whiskey.
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So you don't associate with people who casually drink....hmm.
Didn't expect that.

Actually...I said I do not actively associate with those who drink.

In my life experience...I have found alcohol use/abuse to be a such an impairment & weakness in so many of my business & casual dealings..

..with too many of those people whose association with alcohol ending in disfigurement & death....both themselves and/or others..

..not to mention the "personality issues" when under the influence...

..I do not actively associate with those so inclined to use (abuse) alcohol.


For those relatives who do use alcohol at family reunions..

..or co-workers at company parties & the like...

..I find myself being the one basically ensuring they make it from "Point A to Point B" intact, alive & not incarcerated.


As an FFL in the 1990s..

..I went from shying away from customers who had alcohol issues..

..to a hard & fast policy of "take your business elsewhere" after a couple of truly dumb alcohol related firearms mishaps/encounters.


Not to mention all of the "can take it or leave it ...casual social drinkers" I know who found out the hard way there was nothing especially casual or social about a DUI/DWI (or 2 or 3)!


While this guy may say...."Stay thirsty, my friends."

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..I am more likely to be the one thinking it is much better to..

.. "Stay frosty, my friends"!
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I know that if tshtf, I'd give my booze to RWBlue. He's the bravest and kindest guy I know. He's also all around wonderful.
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I have a stock of my favorite libations. In SHTF, I would use it as wanted, and trade it off as needed, but when it was gone would not trade for more. There is none in my BOB.
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LG1: There seems to be a serious crossed signal, RE: Alcohol use/consumption as compared to alcohol abuse
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I see tons of threads where people are stock piling booze to trade for SHTF items they didn't purchase.

Here is my question, if you were out of booze and desperate for a drink, what critical supplies would you be willing to trade to quinch your thirst during SHTF?

For me...NOTHING!

I'm a light, light drinker.

Booze is the last thing I would need during SHTF.

What would you trade your guns, ammo, food, water or medicine for?
Stock everclear. Lots and lots of everclear. Lots and lots and lots of everclear. Cheap vodka might work, too, but I don't know. Everclear works as fuel for fire as well as antiseptic...or some idiot can get drunk off of it.

I'd trade things for such a liquor.
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Trade for alcohol, nothing. I would trade alcohol for lots of things. We have a pantry full of alcohol that we aquired over the years that never seems to get depleted. I'm sure that it would make good trading material, and occasionally get regifted in a pinch.

I have to say that I agree with LG1 on this. People that need alcohol are a liability, not an asset.

My definition of need goes beyond people that would be classied as an alcoholic. I would classify someone that has a drink every night as someone that needs alcohol.

I know this isn't popular but the fact that they drink every night indicates, to me, a lack of discipline and an inability to get through life without assistance.

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No need to trade for it. We got warehouses full of the best stuff just sitting around the countryside. lol

But, because, depending on your point of view, I am an "abuser".. (I abused my way through about a whole bottle of bourbon last year..) When the SHTF there are good odds on there being maybe a dozen bottles, mostly partially full/empty, of very good bourbon on my shelf. Maybe some rum, she is an "abuser" too.. I think she has been working on a bottle of Meyer's spiced rum for about 4 years now...

I know where three unused stills sit right now. If I needed high proof grain alcohol for medicinal or fuel uses, would be no problem to cook it up.

Bah.. just because I am bored.. looks like if the SHTF in the morning.. 15 bottles. 4 have not been opened yet, I think 2 were birthday presents..

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You can see the pace with which I rip through it.. the tall bottle in the back left is a very rare bottle, Eagle Rare 17, my personal absolute favorite, that bottle is 2/3rds full and was bottled/bought in the fall of 2008..

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Yep. You're a real boozehound...lol.

I think you know what I meant.
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I wouldn't trade anything for some hooch. Heck, I'd make my own with corn, potatoes, apples, peaches or such. I could even make wine with grapes we grow. Then use the white liquor and wine as trade items for whatever I needed.
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I'd trade labor for booze. Not any needed items though.

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