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Old 04-09-2013, 17:00   #21
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If they are cheap aluminum magazines it's possible the feed lips have spread. You could also have a crack in the spine leading to that.

Some other things to consider.

Foreign dirt in the magazine well.
Bent in magazines well from some unknown damage. Though I don't know if it would bend in or just crack and break.


I would take the upper off and inspect the entire magazine well for dirt or damage. I would inspect the magazines to see if one or more of them do it. If the gun passes muster I would invest in some better magazine. Lancer would be my choice for polymer, NHMGT for aluminum.
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Old 04-09-2013, 17:34   #22
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Admittedly the gun hasn't been cleaned in many months, but it also hasn't been fired during that time frame (i.e. it was cleaned the last time I fired it and has been mostly stored in the bag ever since).

Mags are a few years old but have only been used / fired from a handful of times. It would be a bummer if they are defective, but I guess that's life... and I do not want to take any chances. At this point my checklist is to: check the lower for any dirt or foreign objects, check into the brand name of my aluminum mags, try some empty ones, and try someone else's Pmags for any difference in performance.
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Old 04-09-2013, 18:16   #23
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Does the mag drop out easily with the bolt locked back? All of mine drop right out, even empty. RRA lower, Pmags, USGI, whatever, bolt open or closed.
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Old 04-09-2013, 19:03   #24
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When's the last time the gun was cleaned ? Any time you have an issue you should start with a fresh cleaned gun.

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What does that have to do with mags dropping free? The gun was in a rifle soft case, not dragged through the jungle of Vietnam.

Believe it or not, a cleaned and lubed gun doesn't solve many mechanical problems.
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Thanks for all the replies thus far. Additional note, I've had this combo for 1-2 years and this too-tightly-fit just started within the last week. When in the trunk, the rifle + mags are kept in a padded rifle bag. That doesn't mean they won't bounce around a bit and risk damage, but they are protected somewhat.
The mags may be made out of crappy metal and finally bulged after a couple of years.
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Old 04-09-2013, 19:59   #26
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Rock River lowers tend to have tight tolerances, I wouldn't say out of spec but sometimes tighter than necessary.
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Old 04-10-2013, 05:38   #27
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Rock River lowers tend to have tight tolerances, I wouldn't say out of spec but sometimes tighter than necessary.
I've got a RRA lower, and no problems with PMags.
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Old 04-10-2013, 09:30   #28
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I've got a RRA lower, and no problems with PMags.
You ever used aluminum mags with yours?
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I have an RRA that I have used Pmags, USGI, TD, and Lancers in. no problems whatsoever.
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I've got a RRA lower that accepts all mags. I have yet to ever have
a problem with Colt, RRA, Armalite, Stag or CMMG.
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Per my old PM's that I went through, my trouble magazines are "C Products Defense" (cpdmags.com) ... made in USA with 100% replacement guarantee according to their website FWIW. I may need to look into that if determined that the mags are my problem.
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I have never had a problem with C Products magazines that were made by C Products.

I say that because I know they were sued by one of their magazine finishers. They contracted out the finishing on their magazines and when they came back poorly done. They broke the contract. They were sued and lost in court. The finisher is now making magazines. Though I think C-Products are being made but under a different name. A google search would reveal all the details if anyone was inclined.
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Old 04-10-2013, 23:31   #33
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I live in CA but, "this guy I know" routinely rotates mags, removes ammo, disassembles, cleans everything, function checks with empty mag, loads with only 26 rounds of ammo and DRIVES ON!
"This guy I know" has mostly GI mags, a couple of which, function fine but, are lacking in the ejection, requiring him to pull out the mag like the old style G17 mags.
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Go shoot that magazine empty and see if it works, reload it if it does and check if the problem still exists. If so get another magazine.
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Old 04-11-2013, 15:15   #35
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Did some mag checking last night with multiple brands of mags, three different brands, full and empty, and two different rifles. Short version is that two of my five C Products mags are defective and bulging at the top. One would not load/seat at all, and one was very difficult to insert. Both are gone from my bag and I'll contact the company to seek replacement since the website promises 100% guarantee.

I haven't fired from the remaining 3 mags yet, but hopefully will get to the range tonight.
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Old 04-11-2013, 16:26   #36
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I hope they'll take care of you.

Since I am invested in that I own a lot of their product. I would be interested in the outcome.
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E-mail sent to them and I will advise on the response I receive. Frankly I'm not too worried about the cost of a couple aluminum magazines (since I've heard mags in general should be replaced every so often anyway), but C Products seems to stand behind their gear. So we'll see!
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I never put C products on my list of recommended mags for a reason. Little issues like this do not seem to be uncommon.
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CProducts mags are very different than they were six years ago.
Since Larry sold the company, they went down the crapper.
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I live in CA but, "this guy I know" routinely rotates mags, removes ammo, disassembles, cleans everything, function checks with empty mag, loads with only 26 rounds of ammo and DRIVES ON!
"This guy I know" has mostly GI mags, a couple of which, function fine but, are lacking in the ejection, requiring him to pull out the mag like the old style G17 mags.
LOL...."this guy I know"! Glad everything is working out for "him".


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