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Old 06-09-2013, 09:38   #1
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i carry it, shoot it, believe in it.... 5.7

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Old 06-09-2013, 09:48   #2
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Say what you want about the 5.7 round, but that pistol is a lot of fun to shoot.
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Old 06-09-2013, 11:09   #3
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I have a PS90 that I have been thinking about making my truck gun.
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Old 06-09-2013, 11:22   #4
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Sorry not impressed.
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Old 06-09-2013, 11:57   #5
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Sorry not impressed.
I understand stand and that is OK. Until you get out in the field and use the 5.7 x 28 to see the results I don't blame you. if you keep the shots to defensive range on bigger animals you will be surprised at the wound channel.

I don't think the 5.7 x 28 is magic by any means but it is effective in a good shots hands. Personally I rather have the 5.7 than a 9 mm for personal carry
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Good luck finding 5.7 ammo and good luck affording it when you do.
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Old 06-09-2013, 12:14   #7
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Old 06-09-2013, 12:16   #8
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Good luck finding 5.7 ammo and good luck affording it when you do.
I took care of that several years ago. one of the best return on investments I have ever made. so for I am up over $10 profit per box and still have 30 boxes left. two gallon jugs of empty case and bullet to last several years.

that is a lot of 100# pig in the freezer
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Old 06-09-2013, 12:21   #9
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Wow, cool vid.

Looks like the recoil is nothing so the groups are good and fast.

I'll take one, and I think I can get down to Texas for the brass if you can spare some.

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Old 06-09-2013, 12:25   #10
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http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=346766973

Here is some ammo for ya.

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Old 06-09-2013, 12:34   #11
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Rock on, I'd prefer something more than a 22 mag to protect my hind end. They are fun to shoot no doubt but carry? No way.
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Old 06-09-2013, 12:41   #12
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I like the 5.7x28 round. I've shot the FN five seven several times. I'm just not a big enough fan of the FN pistol. If I was, then perhaps I could justify the expense and effort to own and shoot it more often.
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Old 06-09-2013, 18:05   #13
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I took care of that several years ago. one of the best return on investments I have ever made. so for I am up over $10 profit per box and still have 30 boxes left. two gallon jugs of empty case and bullet to last several years.

that is a lot of 100# pig in the freezer
With an average of how many shots per kill?
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Old 06-09-2013, 19:42   #14
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With an average of how many shots per kill?
the cover I hunt in you get one shot. it is a game of angles. you learn pig anatomy, you get the near leg a little forward, and you hit the spot.

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I keep the pig weight to 100# or less. with the 5.7 x 28 has my best recovery record of all my pistols. maybe I just shoot more carefully with it????

I have hit the elbow before. it was a mess. 27 gr blew the elbow in to shrapnel and the lungs into jelly.

I usually in have less than a 20 yd recovery

for me the 5.7 x 28 works.

here is a example for a 5.7 shot. pig on the right at the feeder is way too big for me. see the pig on the far left. his near leg is back. you got the elbow as a marker. aim an inch under where the pocket end and at the off leg forward. pig won't go 20 yds.

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Old 06-09-2013, 20:17   #16
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I like the 5.7x28 round. I've shot the FN five seven several times. I'm just not a big enough fan of the FN pistol. If I was, then perhaps I could justify the expense and effort to own and shoot it more often.
yes I understand. I like it on the ranch because of lack of ricochets. the 5.7 x 28 is a turkey whacker BTW. keeps armadillos and coons out of the barn and garden.
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Old 06-09-2013, 22:08   #17
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5.7 is a toy caliber. Can't come close to matching a real rifle round and doesn't add any advantage to what a defensive pistol can do. Doesn't have the weight and velocity isn't that much higher. I am sure they are fun to shoot though. JMO.
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Old 06-10-2013, 00:56   #18
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Too bad that choice of cartridge dictates what gun you have to use. I prefer to pick the gun, then the caliber.

Any good gel tests of a 5.7? I don't think tnoutdoors9 has ever done one.

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Old 06-10-2013, 03:20   #19
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In 2009 is when I bought all my cartridges. I figured after the fort hood shootings they would ban it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooting

30 wounded and 13 killed. I would not dis the little cartridge a lot. I think I read that one in five or one in seven shooting resulted in death. This is 1 in 3.13.
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In 2009 is when I bought all my cartridges. I figured after the fort hood shootings they would ban it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooting

30 wounded and 13 killed. I would not dis the little cartridge a lot. I think I read that one in five or one in seven shooting resulted in death. This is 1 in 3.13.

^^This may be the tackiest thing I have read outside GnG.

That aside, I am intrigued by the 5.7 and would like to have a short, light bolt gun in the caliber just for funsies and critter whacking. For a defensive arm, I am still on the fence and leaning heavily towards either 115 grains @ 1,150 ft/s or 55 grains @ 3,000ft/s as the minimum for serious work.
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Old 06-10-2013, 07:16   #21
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5.7 is a toy caliber. Can't come close to matching a real rifle round and doesn't add any advantage to what a defensive pistol can do. Doesn't have the weight and velocity isn't that much higher. I am sure they are fun to shoot though. JMO.

Hmmmm? several threads the poster say don't give me antidotal data, we need real data. I give the pistol, the cartridge, the data. The cartridge out preformed the average kill rate by large percentage.

So what do the posters say.....that it is a toy, not a real gun. fun to shoot. The tackiest post you have seen.

So do you want real data and a gun with a proven track record or do want to continue to keeping guessing?

For a few years I kept hunting journal. I shot over 30 pigs with the 5,7 x 28 and failed to recover one. now I must have close to 50 pigs shot with the 5.7. Now all of the guys that say it is a toy, I'd like to know exactly how many animals you have taken with the 5.7 and how many you failed to recover?

LOL either way is OK with me. I suspect that the guys who think it is a toy have no experience with it so I am not sure what they their assumption is based on
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:59   #22
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I don't have a ballistic gel but do have bullets shot into clay

5.7 vs 45 apc

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I am really not trying to get you to carry a 5.7. I am not even trying to convince you it is an adequate carry round. I do think it would be good if a poster had the necessary field time with a caliber before they post a conclusion on the round.



PS I personally would not carry a 5.7 as a LEO. Although we saw Hickock45 shoot thru a car door, I have no experience shooting thru solid structure with the intent of hitting what is in the other side. actually when I carry the 5.7 it is just for the reason I hope it won't shoot thru walls or exit a BG.
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one more. a friend saw the saw thread and sent me a link. this is the SS195LF, a 27 gr copper bullet that does not have a closed tip. there is a hole about 1/32" in the tip.

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It's a range toy. I stand by my original assertion. Sorry, just cause you have a contradictory opinion, doesn't mean I will change mine.

If you are hunting at medium to long ranges, the 5.7 will offer no advantage over a high-powered rifle round, such as 5.56, .243, .270, .308, etc. And if you are using it in a defensive manner, it will also not do anything that serious defensive caliber with quality hollow points won't do.

I would say over 95% of FN 5.7 owners bought theirs to plink with at the range, as a TOY. They are the equivalent of a jet ski, snowmobile or 4-wheeler.

Again, just my opinion. You can argue opinions, but it is comparable to pissing into the wind.

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