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Old 06-17-2013, 07:49   #1
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WANTED:40 caliber round to change BG's Channel

Believe me I know there's no Magic bullet but
what brand & weight 40 caliber round do you carry with the proper shot placement would give you the potential to change a BG's channel --long enough to buy you time for follow up shots to survive a lethal encounter? This round will be used for self-defense. Thanks for the information.
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Old 06-17-2013, 08:08   #2
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While no round can guarantee a "channel change", the Winchester Ranger Talon 180 gr. JHP is a very good option.
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Old 06-17-2013, 08:10   #3
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While no round can guarantee a "channel change", the Winchester Ranger Talon 180 gr. JHP is a very good option.
Thank-you Sir for your suggestion.
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:07   #4
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It's hard to find a bad choice really, but I would generally opt for a 165gr or 180gr:

Winchester Ranger T
Federal HST
Winchester PDX1
Speer Gold Dot
Remington Golden Sabre

Some of those have a 155gr version that will put a BG down too for a nice dirt nap.
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:29   #5
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Federal HST 180gr would be my first choice. Bill
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:35   #6
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It's hard to find a bad choice really, but I would generally opt for a 165gr or 180gr:

Winchester Ranger T
Federal HST
Winchester PDX1
Speer Gold Dot
Remington Golden Sabre

Some of those have a 155gr version that will put a BG down too for a nice dirt nap.
I'll have to check out the brands you recommended.
Many thanks.
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:46   #7
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Speer Gold Dot and Winchester Ranger T's are the top two on my list. I prefer 180gr, but 165gr works fine too.
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:12   #8
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It doesn't get much better than 180gr HST, in my opinion.
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:37   #9
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I was in a local shop this morning, looking for some .45ACP Federal HST. Just wanted to see what the price is; not necessarily ready to buy any right now. Lately been hearing how great this stuff is for SD/HD.

They didn't have the HST, but they did have Hornady Something-Or-Other, with a colorful little hollowpoint tip, 185gr., self defense load. $28 smackers! For only 20 rounds. You're kidding, right??

No, not kidding. This world is insane.

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Old 06-17-2013, 10:48   #10
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With proper shot placement, any decent JHP from 155gr-180gr will work. Choose a weight from a major manuf & test drive it to make sure it is 100% in your gun. Yes some JHP designs are slightly better than others, but I think too many shooter worry about their bullets & not their skill level. If you can't guarantee good hits @ 30ft, from any angle, position & while you &/or the target is on the move, you need more trigger time.
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Believe me I know there's no Magic bullet but
what brand & weight 40 caliber round do you carry with the proper shot placement would give you the potential to change a BG's channel
What on earth does changing a badguy's channel mean?
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What on earth does changing a badguy's channel mean?
I interpretted it as:

change BG's intentions; stop the threat; cause BG to go from 'attack' to 'retreat', or just go down
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I interpretted it as:

change BG's intentions; stop the threat; cause BG to go from 'attack' to 'retreat', or just go down
You have pretty well described changing a BG's channel----Thank-you.
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Old 06-17-2013, 14:14   #14
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You will get several different answers.
I carry the Winchester Ranger T 165gr JHP.
Be aware that several loads also have lower velocity/power levels. For instance you can find several 165 loads that are loaded to different power levels.

What I will suggest is, whatever round you decide to carry, make sure it functions 100 percent in your weapon/mag combo. I have seen guys/gals pick a certain round based on someone else's recommendation and never check to see if it functions properly in their weapon.
Good luck with your decision and stay safe.
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Old 06-17-2013, 14:48   #15
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Federal HST 180gr would be my first choice. Bill
Yes Sir or 165 gr Federal HST.
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You will get several different answers.
I carry the Winchester Ranger T 165gr JHP.
Be aware that several loads also have lower velocity/power levels. For instance you can find several 165 loads that are loaded to different power levels.

What I will suggest is, whatever round you decide to carry, make sure it functions 100 percent in your weapon/mag combo. I have seen guys/gals pick a certain round based on someone else's recommendation and never check to see if it functions properly in their weapon.
Good luck with your decision and stay safe.
Thank-you. Reliability in both ammo & your handgun should always be foremost in your training .
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Old 06-17-2013, 15:19   #17
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Federal HST 180gr would be my first choice. Bill
Same load I carry in my 27.

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Old 06-17-2013, 15:20   #18
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The .40 is much more forgiving of bullet choice than is the 9mm. That said, I typically like light for caliber projectiles and this carries over into the .40 S&W. I like Cor-Bon 135 grain jhp, and "Midweight" rounds in the 155-165 grain range from Speer(Gold Dot), Winchester(Ranger or Silvertip, which is a best buy and accurate), or Federal (Classic).
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Old 06-17-2013, 15:45   #19
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Federal HST, Winchester Ranger-T or Speer Gold Dot ... IN ANY CALIBER THESE ARE THE BEST CHOICES, IN THAT ORDER, IMO.

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Old 06-17-2013, 15:59   #20
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Federal HST, Winchester Ranger-T or Speer Gold Dot ... IN ANY CALIBER THESE ARE THE BEST CHOICES, IN THAT ORDER.
Many thanks for your info.
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