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Old 10-25-2013, 20:40   #26
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Conflict of interest? He's not on the Goldman Sachs, but ....
That sounds like a good thing and completely consistent with his vallues, to me. Obviously, completely consistent with anyone who would oppose Obamacare - I imagine they would all have private health insurance of some kind.
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Old 10-25-2013, 20:42   #27
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Not just how she influences him, but how she influence him to shutdown the government because of health care..
And if you stopped to consider how that example applies to every person in congress, you'd feel silly about trying to make it a coonspiracy.
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Old 10-25-2013, 20:51   #28
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And if you stopped to consider how that example applies to every person in congress, you'd feel silly about trying to make it a coonspiracy.
I can't think of an example where a liberal/democrat ever felt silly about lying, exaggerating, or hypocrisy...
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Old 10-25-2013, 21:01   #29
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Not just how she influences him, but how she influence him to shutdown the government because of health care..
You read that in the article I linked?
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Is it legal for a Senator to openly buy a product from anyone but the government?

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Old 10-25-2013, 21:24   #31
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You read that in the article I linked?
I was referencing Muskogee's false statement that she influenced Cruz to shutdown the government.
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Old 10-25-2013, 21:33   #32
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whiz boy. your hero stated you can keep your insurance. you can

and your doctor. you can

so far, your hero has spouted more horse**** than jules verne.

you sleech your benefits off the public teat.

cruz doesn't

have a nice day.

as usual, you fail
you can still do all those things, it will just cost you a hell of a lot more so obamacare can be given to those who wont work.
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Old 10-26-2013, 06:04   #33
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I was referencing Muskogee's false statement that she influenced Cruz to shutdown the government.
That's a real simplistic statement. Are you so blind to conflict of interest that you really can't see it when it's obvious, or are you on someone's payroll and getting paid to write stuff like this.

If Michelle Obama was an executive with Goldman Sachs you would be screaming for impeachment. Your hypocrisy is really transparent.
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Old 10-26-2013, 06:13   #34
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That's a real simplistic statement. Are you so blind to conflict of interest that you really can't see it when it's obvious, or are you on someone's payroll and getting paid to write stuff like this.

If Michelle Obama was an executive with Goldman Sachs you would be screaming for impeachment. Your hypocrisy is really transparent.
Michelle Obama was a 125,000 dollar a year publicist for a hospital, who went to a 325,000 a year publicist for the same hospital, and later Obama got a few million dollars earmarked for that hospital.

Is that the kind of thing you are talking about? Is that the kind of thing you have to be able to look past, to vote for and support Obama?

http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/...obamas_salary/

The really funny one to read is the fact checker article. Fact checker decided there was nothing to it, because the hospital administrator, said it had nothing to do with Obama being elected Senator. Of course not!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...federal-grant/

http://joshuapundit.blogspot.com/200...-hospital.html

See, how this all works for Democrats like Muscogee?

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Old 10-26-2013, 07:09   #35
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I was referencing Muskogee's false statement that she influenced Cruz to shutdown the government.
That I understand.
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Old 10-26-2013, 07:47   #36
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That's a real simplistic statement. Are you so blind to conflict of interest that you really can't see it when it's obvious, or are you on someone's payroll and getting paid to write stuff like this.
Why is her employment a conflict of interest? What facts make it a conflict? Substantiate your allegation with facts.
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If Michelle Obama was an executive with Goldman Sachs you would be screaming for impeachment. Your hypocrisy is really transparent.
Does Goldman Sachs have Community Liason positions in their organization? That's Mrs. Obama's specialty.

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In 2002, she began working for the University of Chicago Hospitals, first as executive director for community affairs and, beginning May 2005, as Vice President for Community and External Affairs. She continued to hold the University of Chicago Hospitals position during the primary campaign, but cut back to part-time in order to spend time with her daughters as well as work for her husband's election; she subsequently took a leave of absence from her job.
Then it was reported she resigned:
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Michelle Obama Resigns Position at University of Chicago Medical Center
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Michelle Obama has resigned her leadership post at the University of Chicago Medical Center as she prepares to take on her new role at the White House as First Lady.

During the presidential campaign, she had been on leave as Vice President for Community and External Affairs at the Medical Center.
Did you know that there is a strong tradition against the First Lady holding outside employment while serving as White House hostess? Yes, that's true.

Now, while Obama was Senator, she was employed by the hospital. The hospital later received a rather large Federal grant. Do you think the President or First Lady perhaps influenced that decision?
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That's a real simplistic statement. Are you so blind to conflict of interest that you really can't see it when it's obvious, or are you on someone's payroll and getting paid to write stuff like this.

If Michelle Obama was an executive with Goldman Sachs you would be screaming for impeachment. Your hypocrisy is really transparent.
Continue deflecting and changing the argument. You implied that she influenced Cruz, a republican Senator, to shut down the government over healthcare. That is a false statement and or assumption. He had no control over that. It was the Democrats in the Senate, the President, and the House Republicans that were responsible for that.

I hope you stretched and warmed up before you made that false leap. Don't want you pulling a hamstring on that knee jerk reaction. Keep trying.
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Old 10-26-2013, 09:13   #38
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Conflict of interest? He's not on the Goldman Sachs, but ....
They both work and they both pay their own way.

That really bugs you doesn't it?

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That's a real simplistic statement. Are you so blind to conflict of interest that you really can't see it when it's obvious, or are you on someone's payroll and getting paid to write stuff like this.

If Michelle Obama was an executive with Goldman Sachs you would be screaming for impeachment. Your hypocrisy is really transparent.
muscogee, do you have a reaction to this?
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ObamaCrony: Michelle Obama’s Princeton Classmate is Executive at Company that Built Obamacare Website
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Toni Townes-Whitley, Princeton class of ’85, is senior vice president at CGI Federal, which earned the no-bid contract to build the $678 million Obamacare enrollment website at Healthcare.gov. CGI Federal is the U.S. arm of a Canadian company.
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Townes-Whitley and her Princeton classmate Michelle Obama are both members of the Association of Black Princeton Alumni.

Toni Townes ’85 is a onetime policy analyst with the General Accounting Office and previously served in the Peace Corps in Gabon, West Africa. Her decision to return to work, as an African-American woman, after six years of raising kids was applauded by a Princeton alumni publication in 1998

George Schindler, the president for U.S. and Canada of the Canadian-based CGI Group, CGI Federal’s parent company, became an Obama 2012 campaign donor after his company gained the Obamacare website contract.
Do you like the part about the president of the company becoming an Obama contributor after getting the contract?

I have not confirmed that, so you may want to fact check it yourself.

And please, read the entire articles. There's more useful and relevant information in them than I can quote.
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Conflict of interest? He's not on the Goldman Sachs, but ....
This is a non issue.

But if we want to float conspiracy...how about moocheles obummers Princeton classmate, Toni Townes-Whitley, being a Sr. VP at the company that built the enrollment website. Oh, and it was a no-bid contract.
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Now, while Obama was Senator, she was employed by the hospital. The hospital later received a rather large Federal grant. Do you think the President or First Lady perhaps influenced that decision?
Is this speculation or is there evidence?
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Is this speculation or is there evidence?
Naw, I made it up...

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The grant was awarded to the University of Chicago Medical Center’s Urban Health Initiative through the president’s Affordable Care Act and will link patients with community-based services through an electronic data base.
There are others going back to 2009. Google is a good resource.
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Hmm, here's a Senator's wife using influence...maybe?
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Michelle Obama blocked University of Chicago hospital plan to test new vaccine on Chicago area black high school girls.
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The New York Times report, by Michael Powell and Jodi Kantor LINK says Michelle Obama “altered the hospital’s research agenda. When the human papillomavirus vaccine, which can prevent cervical cancer, became available, researchers proposed approaching local school principals about enlisting black teenage girls as research subjects.

“Obama stopped that. The prospect of white doctors performing a trial with black teenage girls summoned the specter of the Tuskegee syphilis experiment of the mid-20th century, when white doctors let hundreds of black men go untreated to study the disease.”She’ll talk about the elephant in the room,” said Susan Sher, her boss at the hospital, where Obama is on leave from her more-than-$300,000-a-year job.”
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Naw, I made it up...

There are others going back to 2009. Google is a good resource.
Relax, boss. You made an inference and I asked if there was anything to back it up. I don't have time to google every claim made on this site so sometimes I have to ask politely.

ETA: Thank you for the link.

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St. Francis (a local hospital) is laying off 800 people.

They are blaming it in part on Obama care. It isn't like there is a shortage of sick people.

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muscogee, do you have a reaction to this?Here's a more informative website:Do you like the part about the president of the company becoming an Obama contributor after getting the contract?
That's definitely a conflict of interest as well. This goes to the heart of what's wrong with out country. It's not a democracy, it's not a representative government and it's not a republic. While people are screeching about socialism, we've been sliding towards fascism.
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That's definitely a conflict of interest as well.
Why is it a conflict of interest?
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muscogee, you didn't answer this...
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That's a real simplistic statement. Are you so blind to conflict of interest that you really can't see it when it's obvious, or are you on someone's payroll and getting paid to write stuff like this.
Why is her employment a conflict of interest? What facts make it a conflict? Substantiate your allegation with facts.
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Why is it a conflict of interest?
Simple, because he's a Republican.

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Why is it a conflict of interest?
I don't think muscogee thought this whole thing out before he posted. His alleged conflict would apply to every congressman and government official in America. Therefore, it is silly.
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