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Old 10-26-2013, 21:38   #51
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I don't think muscogee thought this whole thing out before he posted. His alleged conflict would apply to every congressman and government official in America. Therefore, it is silly.
Liberals do a lot of dumb things. Its in their nature.

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Old 10-27-2013, 04:03   #52
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I love the way Ted Cruz makes libs itch and squirm.
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Old 10-27-2013, 06:47   #53
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Is this speculation or is there evidence?
Anybody dumb enough to think that that is just speculation is definitely the Democrats' target audience.
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Old 10-27-2013, 07:19   #54
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muscogee, you didn't answer this...
Why is it a conflict of interest for Goldman Sachs, which gets government subsidies, to have it's own U.S. Senator? It should be obvious.
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Old 10-27-2013, 07:21   #55
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I don't think muscogee thought this whole thing out before he posted. His alleged conflict would apply to every congressman and government official in America.
You don't see that as a problem? IMO, it's the main problem with this country.
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Old 10-27-2013, 08:09   #56
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Why is it a conflict of interest for Goldman Sachs, which gets government subsidies, to have it's own U.S. Senator? It should be obvious.
Speaking of conflict of interest:

NO BID CONTRACT: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare website

Looking forward to hear you lashing at the Obamas for this sweetheart deal.
Not going to hold my breath though.


P.S. Almost forgot: same company responsible for the Obamacare website fiasco and run by Michelle's former classmate was also put in charge of distributing $1.7 billion for hurricane Sandy relief. For a hefty commission of course.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence, isn't it Muscogee?

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Old 10-27-2013, 08:56   #57
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Is this speculation or is there evidence?
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Anybody dumb enough to think that that is just speculation is definitely the Democrats' target audience.
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Relax, boss. You made an inference and I asked if there was anything to back it up. I don't have time to google every claim made on this site so sometimes I have to ask politely.

ETA: Thank you for the link.
He was just asking politely...

My suggestion that a Google search would provide more information, rather my implied suggestion, was not received well.

He caught me at the moment where while he didn't "have time to google every claim made on this site," I just didn't feel like going back and finding the articles I'd read about the Federal grants awarded the University Hospital after Obama took office. I was all out of "JUSTIFY YOUR CLAIM" energy.
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Old 10-27-2013, 09:40   #58
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. I was all out of "JUSTIFY YOUR CLAIM" energy.
Well, when you have to do it for the same people on the same topics over and over, it gets exhausting.
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Speaking of conflict of interest:

NO BID CONTRACT: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare website

Looking forward to hear you lashing at the Obamas for this sweetheart deal.
Not going to hold my breath though.


P.S. Almost forgot: same company responsible for the Obamacare website fiasco and run by Michelle's former classmate was also put in charge of distributing $1.7 billion for hurricane Sandy relief. For a hefty commission of course.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence, isn't it Muscogee?
Already addressed that.
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:01   #60
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You don't see that as a problem? IMO, it's the main problem with this country.
Are you advocating that no person who has ever worked for, or whose spouse has ever worked for or works for any company or organization that has received, benefits from, or that might benefit from any vote in the House or Senate from running for Representative or Senator? What about someone whose State or District has, does or might benefit from an executive order or veto by the President of either/any party in such a way that the benefit is then passed on to any business or organization with which they worked or held an affiliation during their life?

Should all those people be banned from national political office?

Is it wrong to work for funding for projects, for businesses, for groups in the State or Commonwealth you represent?

You have yet to answer where the conflict of interest lies either with Mrs. Cruz being employed by Goldman Sachs, or with Mrs. Obama having been employed by the University of Chicago Hospital.

How many medical facilities applied for the grants that Mrs. Obama's former employer received?
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Already addressed that.
Not really...You have not answered what the conflict is, how Mrs. Obama influenced the award and if her former employer benefited solely.
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Well, when you have to do it for the same people on the same topics over and over, it gets exhausting.
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:18   #63
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Already addressed that.
The hell you did.
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:22   #64
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while your researching, why dont you check into lets say nancy pelosi's investments and special deals her hubby has recieved and get back to us...
And don't forget about Feinstein who, along with her husband, has made millions dealing with China. And then there is harry reid's highly questionable investments.
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Old 10-27-2013, 12:08   #65
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Goldman Sachs gives money to both parties.

I truly believe that votes are for sale, and politicians are untrustworthy. That being said, Ted's decision to pay for his own healthcare instead of using our money, like most politicians is laudable.

Muskogee? What is the conflict of interest? What about all the democrats that Goldman Sachs actually donated to democrats? Is that a conflict too?


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Keep raising straw men to knock down. I'm through with this thread. None of you want to have a serious conversation.
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Old 10-27-2013, 17:32   #68
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Keep raising straw men to knock down. I'm through with this thread. None of you want to have a serious conversation.
Serious? How much more serious do you want to get than discussing the facts substantiating your allegations of influence peddling?

You started the thread...
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Serious? How much more serious do you want to get than discussing the facts substantiating your allegations of influence peddling?

You started the thread...
Shouldn't that be a violation of th TOS?
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Keep raising straw men to knock down. I'm through with this thread. None of you want to have a serious conversation.
This, ladies and gents, is the post of a coward.
This person has been marginalized to the point that they are nothing more than a joke.
I do applaud efforts here to have a legitimate discussion.
Too bad the OP didn't want one.
Head on back to DU and tell them how horrible we were.
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Well, when you have to do it for the same people on the same topics over and over, it gets exhausting.
They remind me of the old SNL skit about the tobacco executive played by Martin Short, who when confronted with evidence about smoking killing people keep saying, "What evidence, I don't see any evidence."
reporter: "But, I'm showing it to you."
tobacco guy, looking around, "Evidence? I don't see any evidence. What evidence?"
reporter: "It's right here."
tobacco guy: "Where? I don't see it."

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They remind me of the old SNL skit about the tobacco executive played by Martin Short, who when confronted with evidence about smoking killing people keep saying, "What evidence, I don't see any evidence."
reporter: "But, I'm showing it to you."
tobacco guy, looking around, "Evidence? I don't see any evidence. What evidence?"
reporter: "It's right here."
tobacco guy: "Where? I don't see it."

I've had a few discussions that went that way.
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I've had a few discussions that went that way.
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'Twas Gilbert Gottfried I believe.

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He was just asking politely...

My suggestion that a Google search would provide more information, rather my implied suggestion, was not received well.

He caught me at the moment where while he didn't "have time to google every claim made on this site," I just didn't feel like going back and finding the articles I'd read about the Federal grants awarded the University Hospital after Obama took office. I was all out of "JUSTIFY YOUR CLAIM" energy.


If I've upset/angered/bothered you in some way in this thread, I apologize. I'm really not sure where you are coming from on this one.
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Anybody dumb enough to think that that is just speculation is definitely the Democrats' target audience.
Can you expand on your logic? If one asks about the validity of a claim, is he/she also dumb for asking?
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