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Old 12-22-2013, 22:30   #1
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Glocks for Hunting...Which One For You??

Hey all,

I have been thinking of getting a revolver for a sidearm when I go bowhunting for hogs down here in Texas. I usually carry my S&W m65 with a 3 inch barrel when I go, but then I thought about getting a handgun that I could actually HUNT with if I wanted to put down the bow.

Instead of a typical revolver from S&W, Ruger or Taurus, which I love, I thought it might be fun to get a Glock or convert a 1911 to shoot 460 Rowland or some other higher performing round than the 45ACP.

With Glock you have the choice of 45ACP or the 10mm. I don't know much at all about the 10mm, but I have read a bit about it and it seems that given the choice in a hunting situation, the 10mm wins out most of the time in that match up with the 45ACP. Would you all agree with that?

With all the choices available at Lone Wolfe, it is almost endless as to how you could set up your Glock hunting pistol. You could start with a stock m21 in 45acp and buy a conversion barrel for 10mm and have the best of both worlds, couldn't you? You could take it a step beyond and get an extended slide and conversion barrel and set that up with one of the red dot sights and when you wanted to go hunting or woods bumming you could simply swap out your stock 21 in 45ACP with the tricked out upper in 10mm with a red dot sight and be ready to go and take on anything that would cross your path.

What do you think?

I'd like to hear....any possibly SEE some pics, of what you have set up as your hunting Glock. If you haven't done it, how WOULD you set one up if you were going to do so?

Would you rather have a 10mm or 45acp to start with?

How about sharing your thoughts and ideas on a "hunting" type Glock and what you would feel totally comfortable with hanging off your side.

Thanks for your time.

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Old 12-22-2013, 22:49   #2
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Old 12-22-2013, 23:06   #3
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Hunting, or self protection, in the deep woods? To protect yourself, nothing better than a Magnum, except they hold limited rounds. Figuring into account for round capacity, the Glock 20 is my favorite. I also own a snub nose Ruger .44mag
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Old 12-23-2013, 03:16   #4
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For hog hunting, I'll take hardcasts in a G20 or G29 (just depends on the weight you want, an extended barrel in the G29 will negate the velocity loss).

In my neck of the woods, we have coyotes/dogs, meth heads, the rare skiddish black bears, and more tweakers. For that, I'm okay with my G21 or G26 (both carrying Hornady Critical Duty). But if I am to buy a dedicated gun for the woods, it will be a G29 or a G33 and an extended barrel for whichever I picked.
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Old 12-23-2013, 07:53   #5
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10mm wins hands down for hunting. I am a .45Super fan, but the 10mm has more availability and power. The Rowland is too extreme of a conversion for my tastes.
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Old 12-23-2013, 08:07   #6
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Do a search on user id reflex264 and check the threads, mostly hunting with 45Super and 460 Rowland but I think there are comments on the 10mm as well.
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Old 12-23-2013, 08:43   #7
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The G20 seems to be the most popular choice.
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Old 12-23-2013, 09:11   #8
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My Glock 24 with KKM

I've not taken any game with it yet but my Glock 24 is very accruate and powerful with its KKM .40 and Doubletap's hard cast load. With Doubletaps 150 gr load it zips out at 1400 fps. That is 650 footpounds. I'll try to load a picture (again). Why is it so dang hard to load pictures on message boards? You would think someone would have come up with a better system by now.
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Old 12-23-2013, 15:52   #9
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Thanks all for the info.

That video posted above looks pretty convincing for the 45ACP. That guy seems to have some pretty good results using his 21 with an extended barrel. I don't know what loads he used, but he did take down a bull elk in short order with one. That's pretty darn impressive no matter what firearm you are using.

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Old 12-23-2013, 16:13   #10
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Love my G21, which does convert to shoot 10 mm, by the way.

But for a dedicated hunting sidearm in small to moderate predator country, no question--Ten MM! Glock 20 or 29.

Review available Double Tap and Underwood loads:

http://www.doubletapammo.net/

http://www.underwoodammo.com/

Note: I would never want to see the likes of a big grizzly or a puma in the open sights of any sidearm!

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Old 12-23-2013, 16:22   #11
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G20 10mm with Underwood Hard Cast hunting ammo

I don't hunt.
And if I did with a handgun?
It would be with a magnum revolver.

But if we are talking just Glocks?
A G20 10mm with some hard cast hunting rounds.
http://www.underwoodammo.com/10mmAut...seBoxof50.aspx
10mm Auto 220 Grain Hard Cast Flat Nose Box of 50
Technical Information

Caliber: 10mm Auto
Bullet Weight: 220 Grains
Bullet Style: Hardcast Flat Nose
Case Type: Brass

Ballistics Information:

Muzzle Velocity: 1200 fps
Muzzle Energy: 703 ft. lbs.
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Old 12-23-2013, 20:33   #12
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Old 12-23-2013, 21:23   #13
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I have taken several deer in the past with 357, 45acp and 10mm. All will do the job but 10mm has the edge. Used to carry S&W 1006 but now I have a G20 with Blue Lake 5.5'' ported barrel. (much lighter)
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Old 12-23-2013, 22:59   #14
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One more question.

The specs listed above by Bilrus are a 40 cal model 24 with Doubletap hard cast round 150 grain at 1400 fps with 650 ft/lbs of energy.

The 10mm listed by Barth are 220 grain, 1200 fps with 703 ft/lbs.

That's only 50 ft/lbs more than the 40 cal. Why wouldn't you just get the 24 or the 34 and shoot the 40 cal rounds through it which would also let you shoot regular 40 cal that is a whole helluva lot easier to find on the shelves than the 10mm?
Wouldn't that 40 cal with that round merit some respect and some attention when looking at a Glock hunting setup? Why or why not?

Thanks all for the info.

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Old 12-24-2013, 00:01   #15
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Nope the 150gr are Noslers

The hardcast go about 1050 FPS. Sorry for the confusion.
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Old 12-24-2013, 00:48   #16
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Without question, the G20 would be my choice.
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Old 12-24-2013, 01:06   #17
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Hey all,

I have been thinking of getting a revolver for a sidearm when I go bowhunting for hogs down here in Texas. I usually carry my S&W m65 with a 3 inch barrel when I go, but then I thought about getting a handgun that I could actually HUNT with if I wanted to put down the bow.

Instead of a typical revolver from S&W, Ruger or Taurus, which I love, I thought it might be fun to get a Glock or convert a 1911 to shoot 460 Rowland or some other higher performing round than the 45ACP.

With Glock you have the choice of 45ACP or the 10mm. I don't know much at all about the 10mm, but I have read a bit about it and it seems that given the choice in a hunting situation, the 10mm wins out most of the time in that match up with the 45ACP. Would you all agree with that?

With all the choices available at Lone Wolfe, it is almost endless as to how you could set up your Glock hunting pistol. You could start with a stock m21 in 45acp and buy a conversion barrel for 10mm and have the best of both worlds, couldn't you? You could take it a step beyond and get an extended slide and conversion barrel and set that up with one of the red dot sights and when you wanted to go hunting or woods bumming you could simply swap out your stock 21 in 45ACP with the tricked out upper in 10mm with a red dot sight and be ready to go and take on anything that would cross your path.

What do you think?

I'd like to hear....any possibly SEE some pics, of what you have set up as your hunting Glock. If you haven't done it, how WOULD you set one up if you were going to do so?

Would you rather have a 10mm or 45acp to start with?

How about sharing your thoughts and ideas on a "hunting" type Glock and what you would feel totally comfortable with hanging off your side.

Thanks for your time.

Nalajr
To fill that role I don't see anything less than a 44 mag/ 4" barrel making any sense with a 357 the next step under and all your other choices listed less desirable still.

I personally own and shoot regularly several 44's, 357, and EDC a G20sf and Colt Delta Elite and they would both be down the list quite a ways for deliberate choices to hunt anything with.
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Old 12-24-2013, 01:09   #18
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G21SF converted to shoot 40 Super.
Lone Wolf 45-40S barrel and heavier recoil spring.
The 40 Super ballistics are superior to the 10mm
40 Super is equivalent to the 41 Magnum.
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Old 12-24-2013, 02:32   #19
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For a Woods gun?

Glock 36 - re-sprung for Underwood's 230 gr .45 Super.

Really nice light-weight and compact carry rig, and... Yikes!

45 Super 230 Grain Bonded Jacketed Hollow Point

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I have a Glock 36 with an upgraded recoil spring (23lbs) and it feeds this ammo like a champ. I've run 200 rounds through my gun so far and haven't had a single problem despite being told by "experts" that a G36 couldn't handle this higher pressure load. The combination of Speer Gold Dots with this incredibly hot load makes this the best .45 load out there. You could step it up to .460 Rowland but who wants to carry a gun IWB with a compensator. This ammo upgraded my 20 oz. single stack .45 to shoot ballistics in the 10mm/.357 magnum range which is amazing. I tell everyone I know about Underwood and how amazingly affordable they have made premium hollow point ammunition.



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Old 12-24-2013, 04:32   #20
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One more question.

The specs listed above by Bilrus are a 40 cal model 24 with Doubletap hard cast round 150 grain at 1400 fps with 650 ft/lbs of energy.

The 10mm listed by Barth are 220 grain, 1200 fps with 703 ft/lbs.

That's only 50 ft/lbs more than the 40 cal. Why wouldn't you just get the 24 or the 34 and shoot the 40 cal rounds through it which would also let you shoot regular 40 cal that is a whole helluva lot easier to find on the shelves than the 10mm?

Wouldn't that 40 cal with that round merit some respect and some attention when looking at a Glock hunting setup? Why or why not?

Thanks all for the info.

Nalajr

Insofar as muzzle energy in ft/lbs. and fps go, you'd certainly be right. And for SD/HD you'd absolutely have a case.

But there has to be something said about a 220-grain hard-cast bullet Vs. a 150 grain bullet striking bone. Yes?

I don't hunt, but I'm guessing that a 220-grain hard-cast impact at over 1,000 fps would simply devastate the shoulder joint of a wild pig...

The .40 S&W caliber was born of the 10 mm, you know, back in the day. Purists of the 10 mm caliber were calling the new .40 S&W, Short & Weak... At ease, at ease...

The .40 S&W has since proved itself to be one hell of a cartridge, and you don't hear that stuff these days, but the point remains that to propel the heavy slugs at the velocities you'd want to do the job, the full 10 mm cartridge is the way to go.

The suggestion regarding .40 Super is certainly valid, though I don't know if the full assortment of bullet-types is available in OTC ammo of that caliber.

Hell, .45 Super, .50, .460 Rowland would all do the job in skilled hands, right?

At any rate, you're right about getting decent 10 mm ammo off the shelves in most places! This is one cartridge you'll want to be buying online!

Best of luck with whatever you do, and let us know how this all shakes out for you!

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