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Old 12-24-2013, 09:23   #21
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Old 12-24-2013, 10:27   #22
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I plan to buy the 460 Rowland conversion for my G30. Should work very well for me when deer hunting.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:03   #23
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One more question.

The specs listed above by Bilrus are a 40 cal model 24 with Doubletap hard cast round 150 grain at 1400 fps with 650 ft/lbs of energy.

The 10mm listed by Barth are 220 grain, 1200 fps with 703 ft/lbs.

That's only 50 ft/lbs more than the 40 cal. Why wouldn't you just get the 24 or the 34 and shoot the 40 cal rounds through it which would also let you shoot regular 40 cal that is a whole helluva lot easier to find on the shelves than the 10mm?
Wouldn't that 40 cal with that round merit some respect and some attention when looking at a Glock hunting setup? Why or why not?

Thanks all for the info.

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The 35 and 24 cost more than a 20. You can get a .40 barrel for the 10mm and a 6" 10mm barrel for the 20. The .40 works perfect from the 10mm Glocks with the 10mm mags. So does 357 auto and 9x25 dillon.

The 45Super is pretty sweet and theres not much to complain about a 230 gr. .45 cal bullet @ 1100+ but a Glock just for hunting, I'd choose a 10mm. A 200 gr. 10mm bullet has higher sectional density than a 230gr. .45 bullet and can achieve 1-200 fps higher velocity than a 230 gr. 45Super.

At shorter distances it may not matter but the longer the shots - the more the 10mm pulls ahead. As mechanically accurate as Glocks are, I wouldn't take a shot with my 20 topped with meprolight nightsights past 40 yards or so. I can shoot my S&W 6.5" 610 and 6" 686+ with much more precision at longer ranges because of the sights and S/A capability. You can also scope an L or N frame easily and inexpensively.
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Old 12-24-2013, 12:04   #24
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A plain jain G21 loaded with Buffalo Bore FMJ +P loads is all you need to take down a hog.

Don't worry about all the queer caliber conversions don't need 'em.
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Old 12-24-2013, 12:09   #25
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The 45Super is pretty sweet and theres not much to complain about a 230 gr. .45 cal bullet @ 1100+ but a Glock just for hunting, I'd choose a 10mm. A 200 gr. 10mm bullet has higher sectional density than a 230gr. .45 bullet and can achieve 1-200 fps higher velocity than a 230 gr. 45Super.
I can agree the Glock 10mm is more versatile for hunting and general purpose, recreational shooting given the available factory ammo options that span a wide range of power. I don't want to muddy the waters with hand load options since I think the OP's question is best answered by assuming only factory ammo options here.

Lately, what impresses me are the .45 Super loads that hand loaders are producing for special-purpose use suitable for hunting. Following the efforts of GT member SDGlock23, he is working with 45 Super 300gr LFNGC bullets and getting them up to 1,125 fps, 843 ft-lbs energy from his G21 Gen4 and 5-inch KKM 4 port barrel. That 45 Super load, at a sectional density of 0.212 (higher than 220gr 10mm at 0.196) and yielding a Taylor KO Factor of 21, competes with the highest velocity, heavy .460 Rowland factory ammo available.

My personal journey on the road to a Glock sidearm used exclusively for woods protection has been restricted to factory ammo options since I don't reload. It began with a 10mm conversion and 45 Super. I eventually moved to .460 Rowland and .40 Super in a converted Glock 45ACP pistol largely due to the outstanding products offered by Underwood Ammo.
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Old 12-24-2013, 13:58   #26
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I'm getting my ducks in a row for a G21 in .460....
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Old 12-24-2013, 15:17   #27
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What kind of SIGHTS are ya'll using to hunt with?
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Old 12-24-2013, 15:23   #28
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I hunt with a g20 with a 6in lone wolf bbl I have had very good luck on white tail deer with it. I use hornady xtp 180 gr and have had many one shot kills most of the deer have not gone more than 40 yds. Most of my deer have been taken under 70 yds but one of my good friends hunts with a similar setup and has taken several deer out over 100 yds. I have never used my 10 mm on other game but I feel it would be affective on any North American game.
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Old 12-24-2013, 15:42   #29
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I use Texas Ammunition 200 grain 10 mm Express. The factory Hornady is loaded very mild. The Winchester Silvertip is loaded hotter than the Hornady. Underwood and Buffalo Boar are excellent for anyone who uses a G20 to hunt.
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Old 01-16-2014, 08:16   #30
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Hey all,

I have been thinking of getting a revolver for a sidearm when I go bowhunting for hogs down here in Texas. snip

With Glock you have the choice of 45ACP or the 10mm. I don't know much at all about the 10mm, but I have read a bit about it and it seems that given the choice in a hunting situation, the 10mm wins out most of the time in that match up with the 45ACP. Would you all agree with that?

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Thanks for your time.

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Greetings, Texas, I have 45s out the kazoo and none of 'em come close to equaling the 10mm G20 for hunting. But a word of caution if you buy one -- ammo is hard to find and when you find the over-the-counter stuff, it's not as powerful as the original round manufactured for the FBI -- plus, it's expensive because the demand isn't there. To get the good stuff you have to go to Buffalo Bore our Double Tap. Both rounds are awesome (still expensive too) and you'll find out right away why lady agents in the Bureau didn't like it, and why the Bureau went to the .40 caliber (same projectile as the 10mm, just not as much recoil and not as much power. Don't think women rule? Here is proof -- they do, at least when it comes to Bureau firearms!). The answer for me was found in reloading, but it will cost you a grand to buy a Dillon press and all the stuff that goes with it, so you have to figure that in the cost too. Hope this helps.
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Old 01-16-2014, 16:33   #31
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I chose a gen4 21 to carry during deer hunting. I have no problem using it on a deer within 40 yards. That said, I will eventually get a conversion barrel for 10mm in the future.
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Old 01-16-2014, 20:18   #32
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Old 01-16-2014, 20:46   #33
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The new G41 stoked w/ 230gr. .45 Super would be interesting...




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Old 01-25-2014, 16:11   #34
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The new G41 stoked w/ 230gr. .45 Super would be interesting...




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I will be using my G41 to try and kill a Texas Ram in 2 weeks... will have to let you know how it works. Right now I plan to just use a 230+p bonded hollowpoint. I am hesitant to try 45 Super in the narrower/thinner G41 barrel. Anyone have advice on this or should they be left to the thicker chamber/barrel of the G21's?
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Old 01-25-2014, 16:34   #35
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I traded my Gen3 G20 in for a G29 ..... recently kicking myself so much for that lately that I just ordered a new Gen4 G20. Have always been a one handgun guy my whole life ....
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Old 01-25-2014, 17:19   #36
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after trying the G30 to 10mm conversion with a StormLake conversion barrel and that not working out I bought a G20. I am really happy with that and Underwood 200grn xtp. for social work I switch to there 155grn xtp at 1500 fps.
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Old 01-25-2014, 22:54   #37
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I will be using my G41 to try and kill a Texas Ram in 2 weeks... will have to let you know how it works. Right now I plan to just use a 230+p bonded hollowpoint. I am hesitant to try 45 Super in the narrower/thinner G41 barrel. Anyone have advice on this or should they be left to the thicker chamber/barrel of the G21's?
People run the Underwood 230gr. 45 Super out of up-sprung G36's, so I don't see the problem.

The .45 ACP (short of the .460 Rowland) is a low-pressure pop-gun round.

.45 ACP = 21,000 PSI
.45 A+P = 23,000 PSI
.45 SUP = 27,500 PSI

.40/9m = 35,000 PSI
10mm = 37,500 PSI

And I know that Underwood uses good brass.




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People run the Underwood 230gr. 45 Super out of up-sprung G36's, so I don't see the problem.

The .45 ACP (short of the .460 Rowland) is a low-pressure pop-gun round.

.45 ACP = 21,000 PSI
.45 A+P = 23,000 PSI
.45 SUP = 27,500 PSI

.40/9m = 35,000 PSI
10mm = 37,500 PSI

And I know that Underwood uses good brass.




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Good to know. Never tried anything more than standard pressure in my G36, but I have loaded and shot 45 Super in my G21 with heavier recoil spring just fine.
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Old 01-26-2014, 09:51   #39
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Maybe if Glock made a rifle in 300 winmag. I am not going to handicap myself with only a pistol hunting whitetail.
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A G20L, if Glock would ever make it. I know they offer a 6" hunting barrel, but I want the slide to go with it. Increased sight radius=better accuracy in most cases. I can't figure out a way to keep a front sight on that 6" barrel alone, LOL.
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