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Old 01-31-2014, 02:08   #41
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Now that Glock has the new 41, the longslide 45ACP, I thought that would be a sweet piece to get especially for hunting and woods carry purposes. You could carry as is with the 45ACP rounds and get some hot stuff in that chambering or I'm guessing it won't be too long until there is a conversion barrel in 10mm for it where you can do that relatively quickly. There you have it!! The best of both worlds....

Is it not?

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Old 01-31-2014, 02:11   #42
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I carry a G-30SF as my woods gun, carry it while I'm hunting too. It's not a 44.357 mag, but I find the .45acp very serviceable.

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Old 01-31-2014, 07:27   #43
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Purchased a 460 Rowland last week. I can barely rack the slide With the 26 pound spring. The chamber pressure is 44 mag levels, at 40,000 psi.



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Old 01-31-2014, 09:35   #44
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Now that Glock has the new 41, the longslide 45ACP, I thought that would be a sweet piece to get especially for hunting and woods carry purposes. You could carry as is with the 45ACP rounds and get some hot stuff in that chambering or I'm guessing it won't be too long until there is a conversion barrel in 10mm for it where you can do that relatively quickly. There you have it!! The best of both worlds....

Is it not?

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It depends on how eager aftermarket suppliers will be to experiment with a thin-walled 10mm barrel for the G41. A thin-walled 10mm barrel was never offered for the G36 from a USA manufacturer to my knowledge, but that may be due to lack of a 10mm mag option for the G36. IGB Austria reportedly makes a 10mm barrel for the G36 but I've never read a report of its use.

One thing is fairly certain, the G41 with just a 10mm barrel swap would have a stout kick like the G30 10mm conversion (or a G29). The G41 slide weighs 2.5 oz. less than the G21 slide and closer to the weight of the G30 slide; all three of these being lighter than the G20 slide.
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Old 02-01-2014, 00:15   #45
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NO not best of both worlds...
Ya need to put your hands onto a 20 or 29 to FEEL the difference IT'S BIGGER - just like magnum revolvers. It needs (& loves) HOT ammo from Underwood. Hardcast ammo needs an aftermarket barrel like from KKM Precision. These 10mm autos are the most versatile in the Glock lineup as far as calibers go.

The Glock 20 & 29 will shoot 40 S&W without modification - but might ftf / fte

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...the G41 slide weighs 2.5 oz. less than the G21 slide and closer to the weight of the G30 slide, all three of these being lighter than the G20 slide.
Get the Gen 4 for $550:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=390419645
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Old 02-01-2014, 01:55   #46
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Guy I used to work with used a G20 with good effect on several dozen hogs back about 10 years ago when I knew him. No idea what load he was using but they dropped dead quick.

He moved to a Raging Bull in .454, mostly because he was big enough to handle it, and his wife gave it to him for Christmas.
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Old 02-02-2014, 14:02   #47
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The Red Dot arrow in your quiver...

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What kind of SIGHTS are ya'll using to hunt with?
An option I like is the Triji RMR red dot or, so far proving true and solid, a Burris Fastfire III red dot mounted on a solid mount that a real gunsmith drilled and tapped an extra mounting screw through for me, as it moved on slide-mounted recoil.
I like them for low-light, set to a low setting, but an open sight is also great provided you can see the front sight clearly in low, low light when piggies like to prowl...I'm looking forward to a Heinie straight-8 set up on a 20sf soon, to test in the bush.... Oink, out.

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Old 02-02-2014, 14:28   #48
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I don't hunt.
And if I did with a handgun?
It would be with a magnum revolver.

But if we are talking just Glocks?
A G20 10mm with some hard cast hunting rounds.
http://www.underwoodammo.com/10mmAut...seBoxof50.aspx
10mm Auto 220 Grain Hard Cast Flat Nose Box of 50
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Caliber: 10mm Auto
Bullet Weight: 220 Grains
Bullet Style: Hardcast Flat Nose
Case Type: Brass

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Muzzle Velocity: 1200 fps
Muzzle Energy: 703 ft. lbs.
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Jesus, those specs are impressive. Recoil must be nasty though.
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Old 02-02-2014, 15:51   #49
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Regarding recoil, take a look at the video produced by GT member icelandicstud for the hardcast ammo test in a G20 with a 6" LWD 10mm barrel. The link below is queued to start at the footage (3:50) where he shows the recoil from a side view firing the Underwood 10mm 220gr HC-FN ammo.

>>> Glock 20 10mm - Hard Cast Ammo Test - Accuracy, Velocity, Recoil

He states the recoil is very, very manageable in the G20. I can attest it produces snappy recoil in a G30SF 10mm conversion but certainly controllable. It was my preferred load for woods protection in black bear country until I moved up to .40 Super 220gr HC-FN ammo rated at 1350 fps from Underwood.
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Old 02-02-2014, 19:26   #50
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I'm getting my ducks in a row for a G21 in .460....

I have a Lone Wolf 460 barrel for sale in the for sale section.
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Old 02-02-2014, 19:34   #51
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I'm getting my ducks in a row for a G21 in .460....
I have 460 barrel for sale in the classified section.
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Old 02-02-2014, 23:30   #53
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A G20L, if Glock would ever make it. I know they offer a 6" hunting barrel, but I want the slide to go with it. Increased sight radius=better accuracy in most cases. I can't figure out a way to keep a front sight on that 6" barrel alone, LOL.
Officer, these folks in San Diego offer a Glock ultra-long slide to cover that 6" hunting barrel if you prefer--it's 8+", but it covers it up. I'm getting one custom cut for a Trijicon RMR mount. Talk to Eric--he seems to know his Glocks.

http://www.glockstore.com/slides-fra...nt-glock-slide

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Officer, these folks in San Diego offer a Glock ultra-long slide to cover that 6" hunting barrel if you prefer--it's 8+", but it covers it up. I'm getting one custom cut for a Trijicon RMR mount. Talk to Eric--he seems to know his Glocks.

http://www.glockstore.com/slides-fra...nt-glock-slide

If you get one, let us know?
Thanks, but I'll just wait and see if Glock will ever come out with a longslide 10mm. I've heard rumor that they might. I'm just not a fan of aftermarket Glock stuff.
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Old 02-14-2014, 16:22   #55
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I'm not being critical of the 10mm cartridge, but a stoutly loaded .45 ACP (Underwood +P Loads: 185 gr @ 1200, 200 gr @ 1100, and a 230 gr @ 1000) doesn't give up much to the 10mm - all things being equal.

I've killed 5 deer with the .45 ACP and a hunting buddy has taken 3 or 4 with his 10mm. He obviously gets a little more penetration, but the effectiveness is essentially the same with similar shot placement. We both shoot stock pistols with standard length barrels.

I'll concede that this is a relatively small sampling, but it's enough to convince me the .45 ACP (+P) is adequate and a relative equal to the 10mm within the parameters in which we're using them.
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Old 02-17-2014, 07:33   #56
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^^ I totally agree. I don't have anything against the 10mm, but I don't see it getting the end result any better than the .45 ACP (or .40 S&W loaded right). I've actually heard people say the 10mm will knock a deer off its feet, whereas a .45 or .40 would simply incapacitate them, so getting through to those people is nearly impossible.

If you wanted a little more power/penetration you could always drop in some .45 Supers. I think Underwood makes 250gr .45 ACP too, I think, so that would get you all the penetration you need.

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Old 03-06-2014, 16:16   #57
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Old 03-17-2014, 22:01   #58
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Glocks only? G21 in Authentic 460 Rowland if I could pick only one. Anything a 10 mm can do a Rowland can do bigger.

But.... the 10mm is a sweet cartridge and I prefer it over about anything else. The 10mm reloads better than anything except maybe a .357. A max 10mm reload is approaching overkill for for a bad guy (not that I wouldn't send the very best...). Deer and smaller the 10mm is right in the middle of the happy place.

More than deer? When I hunt with a rifle, the 460R is on my hip. I worry about bears, mountain lion, and timber wolves. As brutal as the 460R is on my hand, that is the gun I want to have in my hand when I need real firepower. I would consider a hunt with the 460 Rowland, especially if it's Hogs.

Revolver? 7 1/2" Blackhawk 44 Magnum with 300gr Devistators over 25gr of H110. Just the right balance of low cost, long sight radius, penetration, and power
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Old 04-05-2014, 11:17   #59
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Hunting w/a Glock.....

If you want to keep it basic, in my opinion the obvious choice is the Glock 20. (I just ordered a Gen 3 20SF a few days ago).

A person can hunt with it right out of the box just as it is. Of course it would be best to use true full power 10MM ammo = 200 grn. bullet at 1200 fps.

I plan on using Underwood ammo loading: 200 grn XTP @ 1250 fps for deer and hogs.

IF I end up getting an after market barrel that can shoot lead bullets, I will shoot the 220 grn @ 1200 fps load from Underwood, especially for big hogs or black bear.
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