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Old 10-25-2014, 16:02   #1
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First reloads - 10mm info from the range.

Hi, just wanted to share some info of my "first ever" reloads. Thanks to all that helped answer questions in some of my other posts and after reading plenty of info and manuals i finally got it done. ( I am hooked now ). I tossed in some 9mm info along with the 10mm as well. I started in the lower, med spectrum of published data as they were my first reloads.

10mm - Glock G20sf with KKM 6" Barrel, 22# Spring S.S. Rod. Powders used were Power Pistol, Blue Dot, 800X. All rounds cycled & fired flawlessly and no signs of pressure problems.

Out of all the rounds, all shot great but really like the accuracy of the 8.0 gr of power pistol ( will probably stick with that charge for plinking rounds of Power Pistol ). I will start working up loads on the other powders used along with trying some Longshot as well.


Description: 10mm
Notes 1: 180 gr Hornady HAP, Power Pistol 8.0 gr
Notes 2: Starline Brass, Win Primer, KKM 6" barrel, C.O.L. 1.257
Shots:
# FPS / FT-LBS
5 1265 / 640
4 1238 / 613
3 1270 / 645
2 1194 / 570
1 1236 / 611
Average: 1240.6 FPS
SD: 30.2 FPS
Min: 1194 FPS
Max: 1270 FPS
Spread: 76 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.2
True MV: 1247 FPS

Notes 1: 180 gr HAP, Blue Dot 8.7 gr
Notes 2: Starline Brass, Win Primer, KKM 6" Barrel, C.O.L. 1.257
Shots:
# FPS / FT-LBS
5 1141 / 520
4 1103 / 486
3 1130 / 510
2 1050 / 441
1 1055 / 445
Average: 1095.8 FPS
SD: 41.9 FPS
Min: 1050 FPS
Max: 1141 FPS
Spread: 91 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.2
True MV: 1101 FPS

Notes 1: 180 gr HAP, Blue Dot 8.7 gr
Notes 2: Starline Brass, Win Primer, KKM 6" Barrel, C.O.L. 1.257
Shots:
# FPS / FT-LBS
5 1091 / 476
4 1104 / 487
3 1088 / 473
2 1109 / 492
1 ERROR 3
Average: 1098.0 FPS
SD: 10.1 FPS
Min: 1088 FPS
Max: 1109 FPS
Spread: 21 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.3
True MV: 1103 FPS

Notes 1: 180 gr HAP, Blue Dot 9.8 gr
Notes 2: Starline Brass, Win Primer, KKM 6" Barrel, C.O.L. 1.257
Shots:
# FPS / FT-LBS
5 1227 / 602
4 1190 / 566
3 1179 / 556
2 1208 / 583
1 1218 / 593
Average: 1204.4 FPS
SD: 19.8 FPS
Min: 1179 FPS
Max: 1227 FPS
Spread: 48 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.3
True MV: 1210 FPS

Notes 1: 180 gr XTP, 800X 7.3 gr
Notes 2: Starline Brass, Win Primer, KKM 6" Barrel, C.O.L. 1.257
Shots:
# FPS / FT-LBS
5 1029 / 423
4 1045 / 437
3 1040 / 432
2 1035 / 428
1 1004 / 403
Average: 1030.6 FPS
SD: 16.0 FPS
Min: 1004 FPS
Max: 1045 FPS
Spread: 41 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.3
True MV: 1036 FPS

9MM - Using Power Pistol 4.8 gr ( On par with hornady manual ) Stock Glock G19. All rounds cycled & fired flawlessly with no signs of pressure problems.

Description: 9mm Power Pistol 4.8 gr
Notes 1: 124 grain Hornady FMJ/RN
Notes 2: once fired blazer brass, Win primer, C.O.L. 1.150
Shots:
# FPS / FT-LBS
5 963 / 371
4 934 / 349
3 971 / 377
2 ERROR 2
1 966 / 373
Average: 958.5 FPS
SD: 16.7 FPS
Min: 934 FPS
Max: 971 FPS
Spread: 37 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.3
True MV: 964 FPS
Notes 1: 124 grain Hornady FMJ/RN, Power Pistol 4.8 gr
Notes 2: once fired blazer brass, Win primer, C.O.L. 1.150
Shots:
# FPS / FT-LBS
5 970 / 376
4 952 / 362
3 955 / 365
2 999 / 399
1 994 / 395
Average: 974.0 FPS
SD: 21.7 FPS
Min: 952 FPS
Max: 999 FPS
Spread: 47 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.3
True MV: 979 FPS
Notes 1: 124 grain Hornady FMJ/RN, Power Pistol 4.8 gr
Notes 2: once fired blazer brass, Win primer, C.O.L. 1.150
Shots:
# FPS / FT-LBS
5 941 / 354
4 951 / 362
3 987 / 389
2 963 / 371
1 ERROR 2
Average: 960.5 FPS
SD: 19.8 FPS
Min: 941 FPS
Max: 987 FPS
Spread: 46 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.2
True MV: 966 FPS
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Old 10-25-2014, 19:56   #2
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Sounds like you're getting the bug. It is a pretty satisfying experience to have things work as planned, and to return from the range with all of your fingers still intact.

Congrats!
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Old 10-25-2014, 20:31   #3
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Very nice write up. Thanks for the information.
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Old 10-25-2014, 21:24   #4
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Taz10, congrats with you first run...Continued good luck, pay attention to the details.
Just stay safe!
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Old 10-26-2014, 04:42   #5
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Thanks!

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Taz10, congrats with you first run...Continued good luck, pay attention to the details.
Just stay safe!
Best reards!
Still a lot to learn and pay attention to. I am not going to push it and look for that total maximum load, at least not for awhile, lol.

Just looking for some nice accurate, comfortable 10mm loads. Once i find a load for 180 xtp i will settle on, i may try for a hardcast load then.

Thanks
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Old 11-06-2014, 15:17   #6
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My first 10mm reloads were this week. Started with .40 S&W as first ever reloads early October.

New Starline cases
Power Pistol 8.0 charge
Berry's FN plated 165g
1.255 OAL (my G20 barrel 1.265)

1174* (probably a tad high on the chrono)
1133
1131
1154
1126*
1131
1128
1141
1133
1134
1148
1131
1138

avg 1138
SD 13

nice little kick after running 800 .40S&W rounds through the G20sf... , though not as much as the 180g Underwoods I ran when I first got the gun in September.

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Old 11-06-2014, 20:48   #7
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My first 10mm reloads were this week. Started with .40 S&W as first ever reloads early October.

New Starline cases
Power Pistol 8.0 charge
Berry's FN plated 165g
1.255 OAL (my G20 barrel 1.265)

1174* (probably a tad high on the chrono)
1133
1131
1154
1126*
1131
1128
1141
1133
1134
1148
1131
1138

avg 1138
SD 13

nice little kick after running 800 .40S&W rounds through the G20sf... , though not as much as the 180g Underwoods I ran when I first got the gun in September.
Thanks for the update! How'd those Berry's group? I've never had decent results at speeds over 1100 fps with Berry's bullets. I have shot thousands of them though.
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Old 11-07-2014, 16:19   #8
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Chrono at 18ft, target at 30ft.......benchrest, two handed. I haven't more than 100 benchrest shots ever......

First picture is 10mm grouping. As you might guess, I moved my shots up a bit as they were getting close to the chrono. (You can see some .22 on this target as well)
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Second picture is .40S&W from a day or two earlier trying to increase velocity using PB.
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Old 11-07-2014, 16:27   #9
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As for the Berry's.....one thing I notice right off the bat with these RNFP....as opposed to the RN that I have been using with the .40S&W :

The FP bullet seated OAL MUCH MUCH MUCH more consistently...maybe .003 as opposed to .010. The .003 is a stretch as most were within .001 of my desired OAL.

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Old 11-08-2014, 13:36   #10
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If your objective extends beyond plinking you might want to take another look at 800X. You're an easy 300fps shy of what 800 will do with those 180 XTP's.......and accurately I might add. The flake just doesn't meter well.......welcome to 10mm reloading, nice write up.
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Old 11-08-2014, 21:35   #11
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As for the Berry's.....one thing I notice right off the bat with these RNFP....as opposed to the RN that I have been using with the .40S&W :

The FP bullet seated OAL MUCH MUCH MUCH more consistently...maybe .003 as opposed to .010. The .003 is a stretch as most were within .001 of my desired OAL.
Your seating stem is likely shaped to better fit the FP bullet. If you get too bothered by the COL variation with the RNFP, you could get a seating stem shaped for that bullet profile.
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Old 11-08-2014, 21:39   #12
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If your objective extends beyond plinking you might want to take another look at 800X. You're an easy 300fps shy of what 800 will do with those 180 XTP's.......and accurately I might add. The flake just doesn't meter well.......welcome to 10mm reloading, nice write up.
Probably would need a different bullet too, since Berry's have a speed limit. 800-X does, indeed, do some heavy lifting, but Longshot offers very similar performance to 800-X. Unlike 800-X will dispense reliably through a powder throw.
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Old 11-10-2014, 17:56   #13
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Your seating stem is likely shaped to better fit the FP bullet. If you get too bothered by the COL variation with the RNFP, you could get a seating stem shaped for that bullet profile.
Or modify the current stem by machining or epoxy.
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Old 11-22-2014, 09:43   #14
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Thank you for sharing Taz, your results with the 180 grainers and power pistol is exactly same results as I had, and I use a G20 with a 6 inch barrel too and always use Winchester WLP primers, I figure they are warmer then a standard but not as hot as a magnum but should be perfect for a 10mm size case for every load. Now with the blue dot I have found you need about 2 grains more then power pistol to equal the same velocity. In my testing 8.5 grains power pistol yielded the same exact velocity as 10.5 blue dot, all other factors equal with 180 grain bullets. I like power pistol a lot, I've noticed that when they do the pulldowns of factory loads (take them apart and analyze them) that they are very sure power pistol is used in a number of Cor-Bon factory 10mm loads including their hot 180 grain bonded core so its gotta be good then.

I am surprised you got such good velocity in your G19 9mm with only 4.8 grains of power pistol! I haven't played around with loading for my G19 much, so far the only handload I did thus far was 5.7 grains unique with a plated 115 gr round nose rainier bullet, OAL 1.155 and CCI standard primer, it ran 1175ish velocity, er I didn't write down anything but shot about 5 rounds over the chrono and they were all very high 1100's, just touching 1200 fps
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