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Old 01-08-2004, 12:34   #1
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Speaking on landings...

Here's one I wouldn't want to have experienced, although an ugly landing is (normally) better than a crash.

Scary landing video

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Old 01-08-2004, 12:44   #2
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Was there something wrong with that landing??????? ;f

Actually I was going to the out islands in Tahiti using the local commercial jet service and every landing they did involved rocking the wings 30 to 40 degrees about 20 feet above the runway. I was thinking we were going to die until I saw the locals calmly sitting in their chairs as if everything was normal. Apparently it was...as the next 2 landings were identical.
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Old 01-08-2004, 14:20   #3
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That video has shown up on other websites and there has been discussion that it was not an airliner, but a radio-controlled model. A large jet wouldn't porpoise like that, and some of the proportions seemed a little off.
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Old 01-08-2004, 14:50   #4
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Just noticed that I mistyped the title of the thread... should have been "Speaking of landings..." ;Q

Regarding whether it's a RC, check out the smoke coming from the tires upon touchdown. I'm not a pilot or an expert by any stretch, but I've never seen a RC's tires do that.
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Old 01-09-2004, 08:18   #5
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I think somthings fishy too. I dont think the nose of a real 737 could bounce up and down like that; too much mass. I just cant imagine what forces would be necessary to accelerate and decelerate the nose of the craft that quickly.
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Old 01-09-2004, 08:34   #6
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Old 01-09-2004, 09:14   #7
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Looks more like an A319 than a 737 to me.

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Old 01-09-2004, 11:20   #8
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Whatever, I dont think an A319 could bounce like that either.
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Old 01-09-2004, 14:08   #9
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I'm going with fake on that one cause:

Never seen that airline before
No way that nose could bounce like that
The whole plane just seems a bit off, and I am around them 40 hours a week.
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Old 01-09-2004, 21:08   #10
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It also doesn't look like the main struts compress at all. I also think a nose impact that violent would probably collapse the nose gear. (esp. on a Scairbus)
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Old 01-10-2004, 13:51   #11
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Tower: Leaving the impact area, contact ground 121.9.
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Old 01-10-2004, 15:09   #12
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I say R/C plane too. The smoke under the wheels on impact has me a little curious though.
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Old 01-11-2004, 12:10   #13
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That video looks like it is made with Microsoft Flight Simulator 2002.
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Old 01-11-2004, 12:27   #14
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couldn't get the video to play, ggggrrrr.....But you know what
they say "Any landing that you walk away from is a good landing"
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Old 01-13-2004, 06:17   #15
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i thought it was just sped up, but looking closely at it, the nose strut does compress. NOT MUCH, but it still compresses. besides that, we don't know the whole story. just the few seconds of that particular landing. maybe it was a test for a new landing gear, or a trainee pilot. either way, real or not, it's still pretty funny to watch. reminds me of videos of that airport in Hong Kong.
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True, it does look like it has been sped up. The smoke comming off the wheels comes up faster then normal smoke would.
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Old 01-14-2004, 15:10   #17
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Was that a landing or were they shot down?
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Old 01-14-2004, 19:57   #18
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A few other possibilities:

Could be a stunt flight for a movie or TV show.

Could be an aircraft coming in with control system problems.

Could be a test of a new system for control or autoland.

The smoke from the wheels makes a RC model an unlikely possibility. The video is clearly professionally or semi-professionally done (sped up, sound added etc), so my bet would be for a stunt.
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Old 01-14-2004, 20:12   #19
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According to my brother, who is a professional CG guy, it's CG. Real background, but the plane is Lightwave.

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Old 01-15-2004, 04:52   #20
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my question is why were these guys filming this landing in the first place? would that be a great spot to sit and watch all of the crazy landings that happen on a regular basis? is a friend coming in on that plane? personal video camera footage of some kind of test? or as others said, maybe a practice run for a stun, or a stunt itself? the possibilities are endless, but i'm truly amazed that c150j's brother thinks it's CG. i would like to hear him comment on this. no offense to c150j, but that's not CG and your brother must not be that much of a professional if he thinks it is.
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Old 01-15-2004, 08:56   #21
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no offense to c150j, but that's not CG and your brother must not be that much of a professional if he thinks it is.

There's no way that's real... it's impossible... coulpe of questions (that may have been answered)


A) Why does the nose gear smoke more than once? It shouldn't, as after the first bounce it would up to speed.

B) Why is there no flex in the wings and tail from landing? I guaruntee there would be some of that with an impact of such force..

C) No thrust reverers?

D) No spoilers or other flight control movements?

E) Why didn't the *E$# nose gear collapse?? It's not meant to be hit that hard!


Look at this landing: http://www.funvids.net/funny-video-c...ce-landing.htm

Now that's real.
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Old 01-15-2004, 09:56   #22
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DayC,

Look at some of the helicopter shots in "Bad Boys II" - if you think that's amateur, I don't know what's professional. I'm not trying to be rude, but how many turbine landings have you logged? Although I've only a little time in a C-550, my previous five years of flying tells me that's not real. So, if my brother, who works for Digital Domain says it's CG, I'm going to have to go with him.

Just backing up what he said - not trying to be mean.

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Old 01-15-2004, 11:09   #23
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well, i'm going to stand down for the moment, as the link to the vid is not working. (work computer) so in response to patriot, i understand the forces at work on an aircraft during different situations (wings flexing, gears collapsing, etc) and yes, i've seen numerous stress related accidents with slightly smaller aircraft (4 years on aircraft carriers) but that's why i'm standing down until i can see the video again. and yes, i have seen nose wheels smoke more than once - on fighters AND transports AND commercial.
C150j - funny you should mention BB II, we just finished watching that in the lab. good movie, by the way. great graphics, but you could tell it was CG. and i return to my comment to Patriot. if your brother works for a pro company, and he says it's real, then i say kudos on the sharp eye. i'm not a pro, i don't make CG, i haven't flown in years, and never had seat time in a turbine. so if you would kindly attch a link to the video, i'll take another look.

but before i go, i would like to refer to a previous post on this subject which i made. it's a funny video, regardless of if it's real, RC, or CG. leave it at that and quit wasting your time on it until you can find the guy that MADE the video. otherwise, we all look like @$$e$ for arguing about something which none of us has any solid evidence about something someone found on the INTERNET!

anyway. could someone provide me with a link, please. thanks!
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Old 01-15-2004, 12:32   #24
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Haha, I totally agree with you. I wasn't even going to post, but from your previous threads, I knew you wouldn't be the kind of person to start the proverbial "internet argument." Anyways, if I come across anything, I'll keep you updated.

Thanks!
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Old 01-15-2004, 17:44   #25
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Quote:
Originally posted by Patriot328
Look at this landing: http://www.funvids.net/funny-video-c...ce-landing.htm
;P ;P ;P

Where was that taken?


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