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Old 01-06-2015, 16:03   #1
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Anybody use CFE Pistol Powder?

Just like the title says, anybody out there try CFE Pistol yet? Can you please share your findings? From what I can tell the loadings grain for grain are very similar to unique powder. I'd like to try it because I just tried my first pound of CFE223 for 223 and by gosh the copper cleanup really truly does work and it works very well!
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Old 01-08-2015, 09:00   #2
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OhioGlockMan, I have only made two test with the CFE Pistol powder, I do like what I saw. I will try more test soon.
First was the 10mm;
135 grain HST over 10.2 grains CFE Pistol seated to 1.2500"
CCI 350 primer Star*-*Line Brass (used but pass-through reconditioned)
Velocity 1672 fps from the Glock 20 factory barrel, Wolff non captive recoil rod & 22lb spring. Max case expansion is 0.4325"

I'll have to test more for consistency, but I was impressed with this loading performance, pressures were easy on the brass, powder burned cleanly.

Tested the 9x25Dillon with 10.2 grains Hodgdon CFE pistol powder from the Glock-20 with 6" LWD conversion barrel and Wolff non captive recoil rod and 22lb spring. Was shooting for 1800 fps (pun intended)

0.355" 115gr JHP (not recovered yet)
10.2 grains Hodgdon CFE Pistol
350 CCI LP (slightly flattened)
COAL 1.255"
Measured velocity 1702 fps (despite the leakage from the split casing) :-[
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This was an older Double Tap 9x25 casing, the recovered casing split along the body (work hardened brass?), possibly releasing pressure slightly and reducing the velocity some. I'll test again to see if I get better results without a split casing.
Part of the issues working with unknown power values...I use older brass to find the weaknesses!

9x25Dillon Hodgdon CFE 6/26/2014 test of the Hodgdon CFE Pistol powder was better...no split case! Velocity was measured at 1698 fps, bullet stopped in the second gallon water jug, fragmented badly.

0.355" 115gr JHP (see picture bullet recovered)
10.2 grains Hodgdon CFE Pistol
350 CCI LP (slightly flattened)
COAL 1.255"
Measured velocity 1698 fps

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Old 01-08-2015, 09:15   #3
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The CFE Pistol is very similar to the Winchester Auto Comp, but modified for the copper fouling enhancement and slightly faster burning.

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Old 01-08-2015, 17:30   #4
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Wow thanks for sharing The Shadow! Those are some really fast speeds for the light for caliber projectiles, so I'm assuming this powder isn't the best for the heavier 165 gr and up in 10mm, but great for 155 and lower, am I right? I know copper isn't a big deal with handgun rounds but like I said I was amazed at how this leaves my 223 barrel totally free of copper streaks. Does it seem to burn clean overall?
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If the weather doesn't cause problem in the morning I'll try to test some 180 grain using 8.0 gr CFE and some 357Sig with 115 gr JHP with CFE and AutoComp.
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Old 01-10-2015, 13:35   #6
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Well I tried to get some good numbers but the rain put a damper on the readings, even with the sky screens the rain still affected the readings.

But here is what I did test, I went to 8.0 grains of CFE where the Hodgdon's data stopped at 7.6 grains for the 180 grain JHP.
They shot well from the G-20 and G29, but the readings were very low @ 1124 from the G-20 and 1057 from the G-29 Casings expanded to 0.4330" and primers looked great. The rain was blowing on the sensors and that caused some missed readings SORRY! :-[ I think the velocities were actually higher.
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Old 01-18-2015, 21:55   #7
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I recently been loading 8.1gr of CFE Pistol with a 200gr Zero TCFMJ. It chronos right around 1200fps with no pressure signs.

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Old 01-19-2015, 08:35   #8
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I use it in 9mm, .40sw, .357sig and 45acp. Works as well as unique and HP38 for me, lots cleaner. Having to ration it right now, none on the shelves here locally.
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