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Old 04-20-2004, 21:19   #1
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Gun dogs--what breed do you have???

I have been thinking about an all purpose gun dog and wondering what you guys might have--looking at bird dog/retriever with maybe a little watchdog attitude for around the house.Some breeds i have been researching are--german wirehaired pointer,chesapeke bay retriever,wirehaired pointing griffen.What do you have and does it do everything,or most things well???Thanks for all the replies.
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Old 04-20-2004, 22:16   #2
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Old 04-20-2004, 22:21   #3
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If you want a single dog for all kinds of hunting you should go for a Lab. They generally don't do as well for upland hunting as some breeds like Springers but if you get one that is bred for upland they'll do just fine. Most upland breeds can't take the cold of duck hunting and most retrievers are too big and slow for upland. Look for one that's on the smaller side and get the best breeding you can afford. My current hunting dog is a Golden/Lab mix. She's super fast(and can keep it up for a long time) and has a great nose which are really the two things you need most. I hope this helps!
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Old 04-21-2004, 06:14   #4
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Personal choice like anything, I prefer German Shorthair Pointers. Esox357
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Old 04-21-2004, 09:19   #5
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I have been thinking about an all purpose gun dog and wondering what you guys might have--looking at bird dog/retriever with maybe a little watchdog attitude for around the house...
You just described my lab, Sadie. She has great instincts and required minimal training. She will go through brush and water to get birds for me without a second thought. She requires no special grooming or care. She is very friendly around people she knows, and while she has never bitten anyone she always alerts me to activity around the house (like the turd who tried to steal my truck a couple of months ago). Other breeds may be more exciting, but I don't think any are better for an all-around hunter/pet.
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Old 04-21-2004, 09:43   #6
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My Llewellin Setter, Bob, (English setter out of a field dog line) was great on quail and grouse. He hunted at whatever pace I set, whether on foot or bicycle. Never liked to fetch. (Some do, some don't.) Easy dog to get along with...he didn't run off (after the lesson about chasing deer early on), was a faithful companion and a good watchdog until his death in March last year. If you looked where he pointed you would find wildlife. (He liked to stalk everything that moved, but was most intense on birds.)

Like with all highly-bred field dogs, you need to be careful about structural problems in the setter lines.

I like labs but they're not in the same category as griffons, setters, and pointers. I'd like to have one of those, but would get another English setter based on my experience.

NAVHDA (www.navhda.org) has lots of information about versatile hunting dogs.
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Old 04-22-2004, 09:58   #7
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Hunting Dogs

I have a black lab and a German Shorthair Pointer. I would never get another GSP- I am going lab all the way. Just my humble opinion.
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Old 04-22-2004, 20:19   #11
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I've got 2 labs and use them exclusively on upland game.

One is a flusher (brush buster) by nature, the other actually points.
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I've got a black lab but I wouldn't count on her for being much of a watchdog, that would involve getting off the couch. ;f Great all around dog though.
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German Short Hair Pointer. Hell of a good dog. Regardless of where he was he wanted to hunt. He loved the water and I saw him swim over a mile after a boat in November in the ocean of BC Canada.Huge heart and a great family dog. Super gental and very obidient. He did need to run daily... tons of energy.
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Old 05-06-2004, 17:20   #16
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My English Setter is a fine birddog. 12 years old now so she's retired but has been loyal and good natured all these years. Any of the pooches the readers have spoken of would be great, but I'll vote for Setters anyday.
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Thanks for all the info--alot of good ideas.
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Gage is backing his mom who is on point under the brush in the bottom of the ditch
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The very best upland bird dogs I've ever hunted with are English Setters. Over the past 30 years, my dad and I owned 8 Setters (4 males & 4 females). My last Setter died at the age of 17, two years ago (she would've been 19 tomorrow). She hunted until she was 15, and when I "retired" her because she was stone deaf, I got my first Lab... a chocolate female. I went with a Lab, instead of another Setter, because I now do more duck hunting than upland hunting. As much as I love Setters, they are not a good choice for a duck hunting dog. My Lab does very good at grouse hunting too... but she really shines as a waterfowl retriever. My Setters were good retrievers of downed upland birds, but if a pheasant or grouse landed in the water, they were very hesitant at jumping in to fetch it. With either breed, if you knocked a bird out of the air, it was yours. They never failed to find it.

The Setters did require more training than my Lab. They were all natural pointers, but liked to "wander" out of gun range. It wasn't too much of a problem when hunting quail or pheasants... but grouse don't hold for a point nearly as long. My Lab just naturally stays in closer in heavy cover. It took a while for ME to get used to the fact that she just flushes the birds... after 30 yrs of hunting over good pointing dogs, it was quite an adjustment to make.

Both breeds are excellant house dogs. The only downside to the Setters being in the house is the long white hairs that seem to get on everything. When I had 3 female Setters living in the house at the same time, everything I wore looked like a white fur coat.

As for intelligence, the Lab is a much smarter dog. It's not that Setters are dumb... all the ones we owned were very smart. But the Lab I have now just blows them away for intelligence. It might not be fair to make this statement, as I've only owned the one Lab, and maybe she's just exceptional. She's the only dog I've ever had that was 100% housebroken before she was 7 weeks old.

Both breeds are good with kids. But the Setters seemed to just "tolerate" kids that they don't live with, while my Lab actually seems to really enjoy their company. When my grand-daughters were learning to walk, my Lab would stand by each one and allow her to climb up on and hold on to her collar. My Lab would then walk very slowly, making sure she did nothing to make the kid fall. They'd walk around the house together, one step at a time. My daughter tells everyone that my dog taught her kids to walk... and she's not too far from the truth.
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As for intelligence, the Lab is a much smarter dog. It's not that Setters are dumb... all the ones we owned were very smart. But the Lab I have now just blows them away for intelligence. It might not be fair to make this statement, as I've only owned the one Lab, and maybe she's just exceptional. She's the only dog I've ever had that was 100% housebroken before she was 7 weeks old.

Both breeds are good with kids. But the Setters seemed to just "tolerate" kids that they don't live with, while my Lab actually seems to really enjoy their company. When my grand-daughters were learning to walk, my Lab would stand by each one and allow her to climb up on and hold on to her collar. My Lab would then walk very slowly, making sure she did nothing to make the kid fall. They'd walk around the house together, one step at a time. My daughter tells everyone that my dog taught her kids to walk... and she's not too far from the truth.
I have a yellow 3 yr old and now a black 5 month old puppy lab too, and they are definitely as awesome as you describe.
They are extremely gentle with my 11 month old daughter, and are loved by her more than she does me.
I'd love for them to be hunting dogs, but we just don't live close to any duck areas. But, they do LOVE to swim, any chance they get in the ocean or pools.
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I have a 4 year old yellow lab, he works pretty well up here in AK for duck hunting, wish I could bring him to SD for some pheasant hunting.
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We have been thinking about getting a "RHODESIAN RIDGEBACK."

I have put a lot of research into this dog, and have some contacts to get a pup.

BUT... I have a question for anyone out there who has owned one, or knows someone who does..."And hunts with it." How good a hunting dog are they? How is their temperment? Have they had any medical problems with the dog? (i know what problems they 'can have', just want to see if anyone has had them).

This dog has it's origin in S. Africa, gets up to around 90-100 #'s
It was breed to hunt Lions.. as in 'African lions'. So i am very interested in this dog for trailing cougars here on the ranch. "Just to run them" Just for 'show, and photography'.

So, if any of you guys have one, or have had, etc. i would like to hear all you can tell me 'about your experiences' with this breed.

in fact, i am making a post of this as well, hoping to "catch someones eye on this."

Thanks!


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