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Old 07-16-2004, 09:24   #1
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chamber loaded glock for carry?

For BOGs who use Glocks as carry gun, do you carry the gun with a round in the chamber? Is this a safe practice with the Glock's lack of external safety?
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Old 07-16-2004, 09:41   #2
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I do, It's safe as long as you use a holster that's stiff(preferably kydex) and covers the whole trigger/trigger guard part. I use a Comp-tac CTAC which suits this purpose, like so
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Old 07-16-2004, 10:20   #3
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I do, It's safe as long as you use a holster that's stiff(preferably kydex) and covers the whole trigger/trigger guard part. I use a Comp-tac CTAC which suits this purpose, like so
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I've never tried concealed carry due to the ban. So is kydex a safer option than leather IWB holster. From what I can envision, there is no problem with IWB leather when drawing the pistol, its re-holstering which concerns me
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Old 07-16-2004, 10:29   #4
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Do you find any use for Saf-T blocks on your glocks?
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Old 07-16-2004, 10:30   #5
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i used to carry my G26 in a nylon Shooting systems IWB holster.. as long as there is something covering the trigger guard and trigger and you cant get to the trigger Thru the material it seems ok
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Old 07-16-2004, 10:43   #6
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I've never tried concealed carry due to the ban. So is kydex a safer option than leather IWB holster. From what I can envision, there is no problem with IWB leather when drawing the pistol, its re-holstering which concerns me
Ahh, but we do have to reholster discreetly at times specially if the threat has passed or in a misunderstood situation, where two hand reholstering would give your gun away and alarm the uninitiated.
A properly made leather holster, with stiffeners in the right areas is also good. Its the floppy leather and nylon ones that cause concern. One hand reholstering is also easier in a kydex(or similar material)holster.
Reholstering with a loaded glock is a concern in a holster which collapses after the gun is out, even if you have to use your support hand to assist you. In a glock one can easily(accidentally) get your support thumb or something else wedged inside the trigger guard while reholstering.
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Old 07-16-2004, 19:00   #7
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The first time I have my Glock, I practiced the Israeli method of carrying it with no bullet in the chamber and drawing it and then racking the slide. For beginners it will be a bit slow. If you practiced it, you'll be comapring your speed with seasoned shooters.

Later on, I guess I still find it slow (the Israeli draw). Then I realized I wasn't at home with a cocked and locked carry in a 1911 before. BUt with the 1911, i practiced until I get to be so at home with a cocked and locked carry.

As time went by, I realized it's also time to trust Glock's design. I now carry it with a bullet in the chamber with a bit of speed and trust. I also used the Kydex Holsters as additional "stiffening" in case I use an IWB holster. Some would like the trigger plug but I just find it an additional expense. In a defensive situation, I might just lose it (buy another one again and cost money)or interfere with my "panc rush."
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Old 07-16-2004, 20:38   #8
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When I carried my G19, it was always with 1 in the pipe. But you really have to be responsible about where you rest your trigger finger everytime you handle a gun.
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I've never tried concealed carry due to the ban. So is kydex a safer option than leather IWB holster. From what I can envision, there is no problem with IWB leather when drawing the pistol, its re-holstering which concerns me

Your best bet with a leather IWB holster is to get one that has a reinforced top that helps hold it open for reholstering. Many of them have a steel liner in the reinforcement that really makes a good holster better.
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Old 07-17-2004, 11:04   #10
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Re: chamber loaded glock for carry?

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For BOGs who use Glocks as carry gun, do you carry the gun with a round in the chamber? Is this a safe practice with the Glock's lack of external safety?

bro, i cant believe you still want a 4th gun ;f dami mo na baril a! ako naman, i'm stocking up on ammo and practicing a lot. pero maganda nga yan at marami kang baril kasi pag nagdalaga na inaanak mo at lumaking kasing ganda at kasing sexy ng ina, sigurado mapapa-away tayo ng barilan ;z magsisimula na ako mag-ipon para sa gatling

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Old 07-17-2004, 19:46   #11
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a revolver DA trigger it isn't....

I don't carry so I am not at risk. However, I have a G17 and a 686+ revolver. Compared to the 686+'s DA trigger, the G17's trigger is a lot lighter, and requires a much shorter pull too. Well, that is certainly a difference, and in the long run I might install an NY trigger spring just to make the two triggers feel similar.

I regard the G17 as a revolver that has a fairly light trigger pull, and so requires a bit more care to use without blowing one's right testicle off.
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Old 07-19-2004, 00:46   #12
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In the good ole days of PTC, yes i carry with 1 round in the chamber. Of course all appropriate firearm responsibility and discipline should apply.
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Old 07-19-2004, 01:02   #13
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i used to carry my hk usp cocked and locked. now that i only have 1 pistol with me. my svi is loaded in condition 2. all safeties are working but with a 1.2-1.4 pound trigger. you know what i mean
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Old 07-19-2004, 01:28   #14
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1.2 - 1.4 lb. trigger

mama mia, that's light. You don't drink caffeine, do you? Seriously, what is life like carrying with a 1.2 lb. trigger? Or is this just for competition?
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Old 07-19-2004, 07:11   #15
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i used to carry my hk usp cocked and locked. now that i only have 1 pistol with me. my svi is loaded in condition 2. all safeties are working but with a 1.2-1.4 pound trigger. you know what i mean
Jason,
Do you have long dust cover, Waht kind of Holster are you using.
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Old 07-19-2004, 07:33   #16
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i used to carry my hk usp cocked and locked. now that i only have 1 pistol with me. my svi is loaded in condition 2. all safeties are working but with a 1.2-1.4 pound trigger. you know what i mean

damn thats some scary stuff ..i aint even comfortable having an SA on my waist for carry anymore
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Old 07-19-2004, 17:14   #17
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I had a friend who used to carry his competition gun ( STI) with a 2 # trigger. He was a damn good shooter too. I guess if you're comfortable , do it. Would carry it here in the U.S. too many damn lawyers to sue you.
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Old 07-19-2004, 18:36   #18
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Back in the PTC days, I carried a NY1 equipped G19 with a round in the chamber. Used an IWB Sidearmor. All rules in gun safety apply.
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Old 07-19-2004, 18:42   #19
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how did you find it?

Alexii, there have been so many "yes, get the NY1 trigger" and "No, don't,it sucks" threads, mainly in other forums, not BOGs.

What was your experience with the NY1? I am thnking of installing it to make the pull somewhat more like the DA pull on my revolver.
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I had a friend who used to carry his competition gun ( STI) with a 2 # trigger. He was a damn good shooter too. I guess if you're comfortable , do it. Would carry it here in the U.S. too many damn lawyers to sue you.

exactly...especially reloaded ammo prosecutors will crucify you.. personal preference i guess...
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Re: how did you find it?

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Alexii, there have been so many "yes, get the NY1 trigger" and "No, don't,it sucks" threads, mainly in other forums, not BOGs.

What was your experience with the NY1? I am thnking of installing it to make the pull somewhat more like the DA pull on my revolver.
I've had good experience with it, though my intention wasn't to make the trigger pull heavier. Hence, I used the 3.5 connector in concert with the NY1 and the resulting trigger pull is almost that of a stock Glock.

But I ran the NY1 with the stock connector for a time and yes, it's more revolver like in trigger pull. I actually hurt my finger after a while probably because of the serrated trigger surface. My 3.5 connector arrived so I swapped it out with the stock.

When disassembling the pistol with the NY1 installed, make sure the trigger is pressed all the way back as you remove the slide. Otherwise, it won't come off.
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exactly...especially reloaded ammo prosecutors will crucify you.. personal preference i guess...
Was that you who sold the Bedell custom shorty?? My friend has one and it is a nice gun. Shooting any major matches thsi weekend??? We are driving to INdy for the State match.
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Was that you who sold the Bedell custom shorty?? My friend has one and it is a nice gun. Shooting any major matches thsi weekend??? We are driving to INdy for the State match.

yep.. it was a really nice gun(two months of waiting wasted) .too bad i had to let it go..no sir just some local matches for me this week.my buddies and i were thinking about shooting your state match because plane tickets are really cheap now are there any more slots left?..good luck in Indy state
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There are still slots available as far as I know. I will be working at stage 4 with 3 other Filipinos. We will run that stage. go to www.ntps.org
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There are still slots available as far as I know. I will be working at stage 4 with 3 other Filipinos. We will run that stage. go to www.ntps.org


DAMN !!! 20,000 prize table what are you guys giving away cars??..we will try to come down there it will be nice to see other pinoys shooting.
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