sti edge: market value?

jundeleon · 07-19-2004, 07:27

What's the current market value of a used STI edge?
A friend is selling his gun for 90k.
I haven't seen the unit yet and I do not know if this model is already being imported here.

ogiebb · 07-19-2004, 07:31

if its still in good shape that is a good price, thats just the price of a Para p16

but carefully check it out or have somebody take a look at it. ive seen some STI's from malabon before;f good luck...

Valor1 · 07-19-2004, 07:39

The price is too cheap. New ones sell for P 180K at True Weight. Be wary of fake parts.

9MX · 07-19-2004, 08:11

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Originally posted by jundeleon
What's the current market value of a used STI edge?
A friend is selling his gun for 90k.
I haven't seen the unit yet and I do not know if this model is already being imported here.

if its orig, take it. i think market price is around 150k for 2nd hand

jasonub · 07-19-2004, 22:07

i got a svi for 60t. i was offered a sti edge at 80t both 1 year ago. If its orig take it. these guns are made to last 200t up rounds and i know not much shooters reach that mark even if they are active.

my case, my sv was bought oct last year, round count is around 11t plus to date. and i shoot 300 rounds a week every week.

the gun is still tight as a rock and accurate as hell

good luck

Alexii · 07-19-2004, 23:18

Any tips on how to spot a fake in the STI line? They can fake the entire gun or just the parts?

Valor1 · 07-19-2004, 23:47

There are rumors of fake frames but I haven't seen one yet. Sorry not much help there.

jasonub · 07-20-2004, 01:16

difficult to see. anyway they can fake everything. since truewt and jetro have cnc machines. not that im saying they do

Alexii · 07-20-2004, 01:22

Thanks guys, I now have a reason to talk my brother out from buying one. He was so enamored with it last gunshow at the True Weight booth. With its high tag price, he could actually buy 3 or 4 quality guns.

mc_oliver · 07-20-2004, 02:08

I've seen a fake SV frame. The only hint that something was off was with the 'SV' marking on the metal frame (it was using an orig SV grip, I think). It's not as fine as the real one. However, you'll need the orig beside it to spot that something was wrong. Magaling kasi gumaya ang pinoy..;f

Ang hirap bumili ng mga ganyan if you're not sure of the seller lalo na kung third or fourth hand na. Kahit nga Armscor mey mga loko'ng pinapasa as Para frame. Lalo na Colt, diyoskopo! Mey Norincolt, armscolt...;Q

On the bright side, the BOG's have those guns. Jason has an SV, Siglestacker has an STI, Batangueno and some others have Para's. If you can bring the item sa range, maybe you can arrange for one of them to be there for comparison.

I'll also suggest you subject it through the 'homogenizer test'. ;f;f

doctabako · 07-20-2004, 03:47

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Originally posted by jundeleon
What's the current market value of a used STI edge?
A friend is selling his gun for 90k.
I haven't seen the unit yet and I do not know if this model is already being imported here.

Examine it carefully, if your gut feel says buy it, go for it. I was faced with this dilemma once when I was wavering on whether to buy the Limcat STI that I have now and would have really regretted it if I didn't buy it. He offered it to me at 100,000 but I whittled it down to 85,000 after haggling. The reason he's selling it that low is probably because he's your friend. I got mine from my father's friend. To be safe, have a smith check it out but I'd say go for it. I'm totally satisfied with my gun and have moved up significantly in the standings(nothing to brag about though)just using it, no jams since day 1. Here are some updated pictures of the gun I was talking about.

jasonub · 07-20-2004, 06:05

walang gasgas pati magwell ha doc. Too much tender loving care on that pistol

I have a phone camera, ill take a pic of my blaster but my magwell is scratched so much im thinking of buying another one

OH yeah if its orig sv frame should start with 583xxx. or 1 more x? i forgot.

anyway Oliver is right the fake sv logo is not deep. in fact i saw one at one of the booths at the gun show. not telling which one jetro... whoops my bad.;Q

oh yeah one more thing the frame and pistol should last you more than 200t rounds without damage. or did i mention this already;g

buy it buy it as long as its orig

antediluvianist · 07-20-2004, 06:12

P180,00? That's enough for four Glocks plus an Armscor 1911.

Ah.. I take it these STI Edges don't jam? Is that possible in a 1911?

doctabako · 07-20-2004, 06:31

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Originally posted by jasonub
walang gasgas pati magwell ha doc. Too much tender loving care on that pistol

I have a phone camera, ill take a pic of my blaster but my magwell is scratched so much im thinking of buying another one

The finish is pretty durable, so that helps.

Your SV looks awesome even with the "competition hardened" magwell ;f. Let me see if I remember... I also like your Brazos lightning rod microdot Fiberoptic front sight and koenig hammer. Post a pic, I'm sure they'll agree.

Czecho · 07-20-2004, 08:00

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Originally posted by antediluvianist
P180,00? That's enough for four Glocks plus an Armscor 1911.

Ah.. I take it these STI Edges don't jam? Is that possible in a 1911?

Hi there! may I join? as to the STI's not jamming, well they are still capable of it (no guns are exempted no matter what the price tag is). Buying a quality gun is like wearing a Rolex. You want the exclusivity of having it and joining a club with few members. You can always buy a $30 Timex but since you got the cash, you opted for the $ 8,000 Rolex.

You got a great gun there Doctabako!

doctabako · 07-20-2004, 08:54

Czecho,
Thanks

;F to BOGs

Any gun can jam, with the 1911, you'll just have to get a smith that knows his craft and make sure your ammo is up to specs.

Czecho · 07-20-2004, 09:58

Thanks Doctabako. I can only agree with you more. If you have a gun, your friendly neoghborhood gunsmith is truly a big help.

antediluvianist · 07-20-2004, 10:08

Ah, but that's the point. We spend P180,000 on a 1911, and then it is necessary to spend more on it for a smith to work on it to lower the probability of this P180,000 1911's jamming/FTF/FTE etc.

The Rolex is expensive but WORKS. The 1911...? There has to be a more reliable design. Maybe in Austria.

Czecho · 07-20-2004, 10:23

Ah yes. STi's are one of the best production guns together with other names like Colt, SVI, Les baer, etc. Like other mechanical things designed and created by man, occassional lemons appear and imperfections do come out from time to time.

Just like watches (whatever brand) if it fails, a good watchmaker can do the repairs. the thing is, if it ever needs some servicing, it will take some time. paying much for a pistol (P180,000) somewhat saves you some time on a trip to the gunsmith.

the gun made in Austria is reliable. but there are times that even the design fails (remember the kabooms on .40 calibers). doctabako said it well and I agree. any gun can jam, any gun can have problems. it's just that when you paid more on the gun you just "lessened" but does not "guarantee" a trip to the gunsmith. given a rolex and a timex, both will need servicing if you dropped them at a 10 meter height. just my .02. enjoy the shoots

Czecho · 07-20-2004, 10:27

One more thing. the 1911 design is quite reliable. it has been proven in two world wars, countless skirmishes, police battles and in the hands of countless competitors. must have worked alright.

in fairness with the glocks (i have two of them G17 and G26). the austrian pistols are worth keeping for their sheer reliability, simplicity and durability. just like a watch, you don't use much of your Rolex everyday. you tend to use the Timex for daily wear.

9MX · 07-20-2004, 10:55

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Originally posted by Czecho
...just like a watch, you don't use much of your Rolex everyday. you tend to use the Timex for daily wear.

exactamento!

v1ct0r · 07-20-2004, 17:44

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Originally posted by doctabako
Examine it carefully, if your gut feel says buy it, go for it. I was faced with this dilemma once when I was wavering on whether to buy the Limcat STI that I have now and would have really regretted it if I didn't buy it. He offered it to me at 100,000 but I whittled it down to 85,000 after haggling. The reason he's selling it that low is probably because he's your friend. I got mine from my father's friend. To be safe, have a smith check it out but I'd say go for it. I'm totally satisfied with my gun and have moved up significantly in the standings(nothing to brag about though)just using it, no jams since day 1. Here are some updated pictures of the gun I was talking about.

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bulm540 · 07-20-2004, 18:06

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Originally posted by antediluvianist
Ah, but that's the point. We spend P180,000 on a 1911, and then it is necessary to spend more on it for a smith to work on it to lower the probability of this P180,000 1911's jamming/FTF/FTE etc.

The Rolex is expensive but WORKS. The 1911...? There has to be a more reliable design. Maybe in Austria.

Any gun could have a malfunction, Was ROing a guy last year durign the TN state match when his glock's striker broke. CLick, rack, click, rack...click...."Oh sh&&^%*&$".

bulm540 · 07-20-2004, 18:09

Quote:

Originally posted by jundeleon
What's the current market value of a used STI edge?
A friend is selling his gun for 90k.
I haven't seen the unit yet and I do not know if this model is already being imported here.

If it's orig, buy it. You won't regret it. AS Jasonub said, it is gun that would last you a lifetime. I Bought my SV used with about 25K on it and Have shot about 15 K. Still accurate and reliable.

mc_oliver · 07-20-2004, 19:40

One thing about the SV's and STI's is that when you work the slide, solid na solid yung feeling. As for the 1911 in general with a properly set up trigger, it's worlds apart from the normal factory guns.

Not STI or SVI, but one of these days, kung maka tiempo tayo kay Noel Tan, I'll ask him to show us his Caspian. Hanep yung slide fit. Racking it feels like mey ball bearings yung slide-frame junction.