[Bullman]

Originally posted by VN350X10
A barn what ??

Barney Cull perhaps, a place where you rid the world of purple dinosaurs?;f

As opposed to the Chamber, where one rids oneself (if your lucky some nicer looking person will do it for you) of Monkeys

[VN350X10]

Daddy's first Monkey....Or does this officially make you a Monkey's Uncle.
Either way, you're going to have to wait for chamber time, as I think that G 33 is now at sea.








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[susan28]

oooooo sticky situation.. but while you're waiting, POP QUIZ!!

how many firearm mfgr's also make motorcycles?

i'll start you off with an obscure one: Benelli. makers of my very first motor vehicle, the Benelli Buzzer.

i can think of 3 others.

[VN350X10]

Well, BSA is the abbreviation for "Birmingham Small Arms", and Smith & Wesson has been doing machine shop work on Harley Davidson's transmission cases for several years.


nothing else pops into my head right now. The A/C unit in my house crapped out last night & it will take about a week to get the necessary parts, even thou it is covered under warranty.
WE ARE NOT AMUSED !!!!!!!!

[susan28]

yeahhh BSA!! that's one i thought might stump people.. and i didn't know that about S&W! kewl..

another: Husqvarna, like Benelli a purveyor of bikes and shoulder arms, but these Swedes do it in the dirt with world-class motocrossers. candy-apple gas tanks with side panels like a chrome-lined barrel, absolutely gorgeous. you haven't lived til you've ridden one of their 400's. but i might be dating myself here as i haven't seen one since the 70's..

treacherous entities, those a/c companies.. the insurance companies of the home-improvement world..

[Bullman]

I don't know for sure, but I wonder if Royal Enfield, maker of motorcycles, is also the Enfield of military rifle fame, just thought I would throw that one out there

[susan28]

better to throw it out there than to drop the ball, and i'll bet they're related.

we seem to have alot of anglophiles here, but getting back to the Continent, here's another one: Puch. also represented on the moto-x circuit at one time, maybe still.

[VN350X10]

Ah yes Puch.....Styer if I remember correctly. You mentioned Husquvarna....Ever seen a Viking sewing machine ? They also make the 2nd best chain saws in the world.

Don't worry too much about dating yourself here....The last dirt-ride I owned was a Bultaco 360 Bandito.....and I still have a scar from a kick-back with a Bultaco 250 Pursang...........(ouch)

[Bullman]

Bultaco, a name you don't hear every day, and a word that gives me the strange desire to go out for mexican food.

[susan28]

ah, yes... had i not gotten out of my "dirt phase" at 15 or so, the successor to my CR125 would've been a Pursang, for sure.. that was one hot number.. but then anything with "250" on it was to my youthful eyes.. pretty blue tanks, but the silver-and-olive-drab motif on my Elsinore radiated badness and i loved it, too..

if you followed the Bike side of their double life, you might remember their magazine ads with pictures of sewing machines and ocean liners (a jab at Kawasaki i believe) sporting the Bultaco logo with captions like, "no way" and "absurd", claiming they *only* made bikes.

dunno if they were purists back then or if their weapons division was just "classified" .. i've heard tell of CIA operatives using sonic toothbrushes bearing their trademark, but nothing can be proved..

[Bullman]

Ahhhh, hearing those little letters CR remind me of my misspent youth. I had a friend in the country and they had a couple of CR75's for chasing the herd. OH the countless hours of fun we had riding the back country roads and their home made motocross tracks (if my parents had gotten wise to it they would have never let me go back). That is where I caught the bike bug. But alas, My Cowasocki has gone by the wayside, sold to help finance little Sarah. Someday perhaps a new motor will wander into my life

[susan28]

wow i'm old, never heard of those. in my day Honda's 75's were of XR designation. 4 strokes. i had a Suzuki TM-75, 2-stroke just like its siblings. 2 friends had XR's and i could whip them except in a drag race where they had the top end. but i made better rooster-tails

so do the letters "RD" take you back at all, Bullman?

here's a new motor for ya:

[Bullman]

You are right, I am so old that it seems my memory is slipping. (bring on the geritol) I should have said XR, after all, they were straight dirt machines, Were CR's dirt street?

[susan28]

the CR's were full-race motocross models called the "Elsinore" and came in 125 and 250 and were 2-strokes. for some reason Honda made their entry-level 75cc model a 4-stroke called the XR, though as you say it's full-moto as well. i think the XR is still alive.

their "trailbikes" (enduros) were called CL's. a CL70 was my first step up from the little Benelli minibike but it was *huge* for a 70 and my feet barely hit the ground. that was short-lived when my friend got his XR and i had to have a proper racebike to match but chose the Suzuki.

Honda also made something called an SL70 which was also 50/50 but more to the dirt side. i think those were replaced by the XR75.

[Gatman]

Wow.

[susan28]

Originally posted by VN350X10
Ah yes Puch.....Styer if I remember correctly. You mentioned Husquvarna....Ever seen a Viking sewing machine ? They also make the 2nd best chain saws in the world.

Don't worry too much about dating yourself here....The last dirt-ride I owned was a Bultaco 360 Bandito.....and I still have a scar from a kick-back with a Bultaco 250 Pursang...........(ouch)

wow small world.. and yes i believe Pursangs were known for that weren't they? wound tight..

and i've never seen Husky's sergers or chainsaws, but i'm sure Bultaco's sewing machine ad was a barb at them. and i think they had a chainsaw ad too.

but Roger DeCoster ruled the day back then.. i think he rides for FN now doesn't he? lol..

ok last one i can think of and you probably know this one too uncle, part of that same crop of euro-crossers: CZ.

i fold with that one, can't think of any more.

so who makes the first best chainsaws, then?

[VN350X10]

Most of the guys around here that had CZ's were into trials type riding. There were also a few of the earliest KTM's, & even a few Pentons.

Best chainsaw....no contest: Sthil. I used to really like my Mac's, as I ran their motors on my racing go-carts. (100 cc's, 14:1 compression, about 21 hp @ 13,500 rpm, on alky & Klotz synthetic oil) Too lean was terminal however. Unfortunately, an oriental comglomerate now ownes the name, & parts for the American Mac's just don't exist anymore.
Saw in today's Chi. Tribune that a Chinese outfit wants to buy Maytag. Great. Hope they don't buy it before I get the parts for my A.C. (guess whoose?!)
I think Bultaco was jabbing fun @ Husky, I only remember them making bikes. At the time, about the most cost-effective way to race MC. Even compared to the newer bikes, the Bulls are STILL fast (in a straight line!) What brakes ?????
old bikes...Montessa, Greeves, Jawa,....yes, uncle was a serious gearhead.

I used to seriously lust after a Hodaka dirt bike. OK, maybe not the bike itself, but a girl who lived down the street had one and...... ;f;f

[VN350X10]

I forgot all about those little beasts. Wasn't the hot setup model called the "Combat Wombat"?

[susan28]

hehehe woooHOOOO MEMORY lane.. mannnn.. all this took place for me in wildwood, nj, in the early 70's.. they used to let the locals take motor vehicles on that huge beach in the winter months, and *everyone* had a bike, with training wheels if necessary, and you saw *everything* on that beach.. sj, were you *there*?! my friend Jeannie across the street on 17th st had a Hodaka.. it wasn't a Wombat but we had those too, local shop sold them.. they had a bright yellow 850 Commando in that shop, and Moto Guzzi's too..

Jeannie's was a Hodaka 100 she shared with her lil brother. bright red thick tube frame and chrome tank.. used to confuse them with Huskys.. and when we started really getting into it we started making trips to the shellpits with the older kids where they had hillclimbs and enduros, that's where i saw the Pentons and KTM's..

i know all those names, uncle.. all but the Greeves.. and have seen examples of all of them.. ohhh but *Montessa*.. oooooo.. the first serious motocross bike to *fly* by me the first day i took my Benelli Buzzer out there was a Montessa and that *scream* and that smell of premix imprinted on my brain.. one of the "big kids" had it.. i thought, "oooooo *racing* bike".. so slim and sexy, oval plate on the rear fender, serious bike.. wow thanks for the memory..

and OMG racing karts.. i was too young to know the workings of them but my cousin had one, sounded like a model airplane and had a big black expansion chamber going diagonal across the back of it.. we were visitng and my uncle let me drive it down the street (they lived on the beach block) and i drove down to the beach casually, turned around and *punched* it.. *flew* by the house pulling crazy G's, hair flying in the wind behind me and my parents said it scared the heck out of them but i was giddy.. that thing was *awesome*!! smelled like that Montessa i was 10 years old..

you were into fuels more than i was uncle but i got to play with it a little in high school where i had a friend with a machine shop in his garage who helped me build an RD400 (ok did it for me basically but i participated). dropped in a roller-crank from a TZ350 factory bike making it rock solid and shortened the stroke so it too turned 13k+ and there were no oil pumps for that so we ran premix with premium fuel but it ran 11.02 with me riding. painted black with gold sunburst heads, 34mm Mikunis, cafe seat, real clip-ons, rear-mounted pegs and reversed levers for a one-up-five-down pattern and dual driled disks on a KH750 front end just to hold it down.. rode that to catholic school in west palm beach in sophomore year before finally getting a car..

hehe, this is great ;z where's the Rabbi?

[samurairabbi]

Originally posted by susan28
... hehe, this is great ;z where's the Rabbi?

Rabbi is here. Rabbi recognizes his obligation to keep the libations flowing during so heavy duty a nostalgia session as this one.

[susan28]

OK now it's a party (and always has been) here's uncle's stash (leftover from his homecoming / Sarah's b-day party) should you run low..

[joey'sGlock23]

These are my two children, and my favorite examples or german and Austrian engineering. To the right is the 10mm Glock model 29, and to the left is my pride and joy, a 1955 Leica M3 35mm rangefinder with a 50mm 2.0 summicron collapsable lens. Saw them together and it was so moving I had to share. Sorry if the dungeon ones can't appreciate the class *ahem* but thats ok

[joey'sGlock23]

sorry

[VN350X10]

Nice Joey, I think that your camera is only slightly younger than uncle!



Now that my stash has been outed, it must be duly noted that the bottles as shown are merely the "emergency supply".....MUCH, MUCH larger containers of BOTH are easily avaliable to those who know the finer logistics of procurment. Such is the nature of the information disseminated in the Samurirabbi's advanced accounting/logistics/embezzeling/procurment class. This is in fact a level 301 class, which also requires the permission of the instructor, after a suitable formal interview is conducted. A monetary "embellishment" of the interview is no guarentee of admission, but it doesn't hurt. (note: large quantity of small denomination, un-marked bills is recomended)