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Old 09-01-2004, 15:46   #1
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Anybody tried bodyweight exercises?

Has anyone tried bodyweight exercises, like Matt Furey (web site here) markets?

Just curious as to anyone's experience with this type of program.
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Old 09-01-2004, 16:06   #2
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I have Matt's "Combat Conditioning" book. Great stuff! You'll get a great workout, you'll build real "functional" strength. If you like lifting weights, this is a great addition to your training. If you don't like to lift weights, you'll build plenty of strength and flexibility with these exercises alone.
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Old 09-01-2004, 16:28   #3
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If you want to know if bodyweight exercises work, just look at a gymnast.
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Old 09-12-2004, 07:33   #4
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Pull-ups, chin-ups , and Dips will pack on the mass too.
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Old 09-12-2004, 08:01   #5
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I like the sound of bodyweight excercises, this semester I have a couple of tough classes along with my full-time job and I need all the time I can get, so I dropped going to the gym. I am really missing "pumping iron", but without a spotter I felt like I wasn't really achieving my potential.

Now, the trick is to get disciplined enough to do the bodyweight excerises at home. How much time does one of these routines take?

Is the Furey guy serious, or just a bunch of marketing hype? I'm sure he could wrap me like a pretezel, but anytime someone comes on as strong as he does on his website it makes me wonder.

Here is another website on bodyweight exercises that I have found, http://www.tbkfitness.org/ Not as hyped up, but basically the same information. I know the eating plan works for me, now to discipline myself enough to make time for the exercise plan.

Anyone else out there using Bodyweights excerises in place of "Pumping Iron"?
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Old 09-12-2004, 15:51   #6
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Pull-ups, chin-ups , and Dips will pack on the mass too.
Sure you've got to start there, but if you really want to pack on mass you've got to push past using bodyweight and strap on the chain belt.
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Old 09-13-2004, 01:44   #7
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Thats all that I do is Bodyweight exercises. Pushups, squats, etc.

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Old 09-15-2004, 02:56   #8
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Sure you've got to start there, but if you really want to pack on mass you've got to push past using bodyweight and strap on the chain belt.
Good point, but body weight exercises are very effective, for many, at maintaining the strength that they've gotten from pumpin' iron. But if you can do tons of body weight exercises (the hard ones) then you have a solid foundation. At that point it's certainly a great idea, especially for adding mass, to get a chain belt. Weighted pull ups/chin ups and dips RULE!
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Nothing is instant. The better the results the harder your going to have to work at it (with getting in shape).
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Old 09-15-2004, 03:43   #10
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Just be careful with the dips...They are not good for your rotator cuff. When I was a trainer, I stopped using them with my clients. There are simply too many other exercises you can do to work these muscles without the risk. Of course, almost all are most easily done in the gym.

And don't knock the gym too much. I was just there and one of the hottest women I have ever seen in my life was there. I see her from time to time, but she is so unbelievably hot, that I just can't bring myself to talk to her...even though I have had subtle invitations to do so. Oh well... It is good motivation though, no matter what.

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Sure you've got to start there, but if you really want to pack on mass you've got to push past using bodyweight and strap on the chain belt.

Been there, done that, ripped my t-shirt!^c
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Just be careful with the dips...They are not good for your rotator cuff.
I like to do dips, but don't want to injure my rotor cuff. Any advice on how to prevent rotor cuff injuries while doing dips? So far, I haven't noticed any problems, but I haven't been doing them very long. Eventually I want to do weighted dips.
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Old 09-15-2004, 19:01   #13
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There are curls to strenghten the Rot. cuff muscles. I do them(#2 & #3) as a superset.



Try here:



http://www.aafp.org/afp/20030315/1315ph.html





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Old 09-18-2004, 09:45   #14
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If you want to know if bodyweight exercises work, just look at a gymnast.
My older pics from when I tumbled 5x a week make me look pretty "buff" and really more masculine than I'd like to at 33. Most of the guys my age don't find that kind of build very attractive although I was probably very healthy during that period of my life.
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Old 09-18-2004, 14:34   #15
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As far as dips and rotator cuffs go, some say dips bother them, others say bench does the damage. It's an indvidual thing. I know a few people that can't/won't bench for it hurts their shoulders but they have dipped bodyweight+200 lbs, without pain.

If you dip, just do it with control. They are a great exercise.

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P.S. Sorry for the sidebar, but whenever I see this chick, my mind gets scrambled all to hell.
Uh, you might want to talk to her. Why else are you bothering to work out? Trust me, I've been there, and found out that bad publicity is better than no publicity.


And as for bodyweight exercises, can anyone do a one-armed, one-legged pushup? Hats off if you can.
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Old 09-19-2004, 02:42   #17
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Uh, you might want to talk to her. Why else are you bothering to work out? Trust me, I've been there, and found out that bad publicity is better than no publicity.
I know USPMAN, I know... I need to regrow my ...uh, part of my anatomy. I will talk to her next time I see her, I promise.

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P.S. younggenius, along with doing rotator cuff exercises, you need to do rotator cuff/deltoid stretches. I cannot emphasize that enough. The bad news is that I have never seen any good stretches for these body parts (nor for many others) in books or anywhere. And I used to pay a lot of attention to that kind of thing. So I had to figure it out myself. And I have.

I would love to try to explain how to do them, however without pictures it would be like writing a small book. But they are really effective at improving range of motion, preventing injuries and reducing tightness/spasms (over the long haul on the latter). In fact, they also help to heal minor injuries. I know, because I do A LOT of lifting and occasionally run into little tweaks here and there. I almost never have to miss any time lifting and credit specialized exercises and stretches for this.

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Old 09-23-2004, 20:30   #18
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Some of the best information I have ever come across for body building and conditioning have been from this site: http://www.healthforlife.com/

The company site is down right now, but the workouts and books they have are exceptional.

The book "7 and 1/2 minute rotator cuff solution" has saved me from serious shoulder injury for the past 10+ years of martial arts training and lifting weights.

I cannot recomend the workouts and books enough, they are really that good, if you use them.

I would second the vote for Matt F.s stuff, it is basic, can be done anywhere and really does work.

Oh, and this book http://www.stadion.com/stretch.html
The best book on streching I have ever come across.

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Old 09-23-2004, 20:52   #19
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Furey's stuff is pretty good, but it's also widely available on the web for free. I bought his combat conditioning book, and found it really useful. The thing that has turned me off to him is the constant, relentless marketing. I know it's a business, but the high pressure approach has never worked well with me. There are some great sites with bodyweight exercises. Also the Farmer Burns course that Furey sells is available on the web, and is worth a look. Frank Shamrock and Baz Ruttan also both have excellent bodyweight exercise/fight conditioning DVDs on the market.
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I like to do dips, but don't want to injure my rotor cuff. Any advice on how to prevent rotor cuff injuries while doing dips? So far, I haven't noticed any problems, but I haven't been doing them very long. Eventually I want to do weighted dips.
The October 2004 Issue of Fitness magazine has a warm up pictured on page 21 of a move designed to warm up your rotator cuff.
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