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Old 09-28-2014, 12:59   #1
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Why Did They Stop Making H&K P7M8

Does anyone know why H&K stopped making the P7M8? It seems like a great gun, and is still much sought after (although very pricey). Just wondering why they would stop a successful line. Colt is still making the 1911's for example. Thanks in advance for your insights.

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Old 09-28-2014, 14:08   #2
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not cost effective these days, and too heavy, too few rounds to compete with todays polymer wonders, it's one of my favorite guns, shame only used market today.
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Old 09-28-2014, 14:17   #3
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I'm waiting for the Scandium frame remake.

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Old 09-28-2014, 16:13   #4
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Carrying it right now. Not that much heavier than a 4inch kimber and 9mm works!
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Old 09-28-2014, 17:08   #5
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Because HK hates us.
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Old 09-28-2014, 17:54   #6
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Their production was causing steel prices to skyrocket.
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Old 09-28-2014, 18:33   #7
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Because HK hates us.
No, because H&K hates rayzer007.
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Old 09-28-2014, 19:20   #8
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Presumably because it is very expensive to both make and buy, and who would buy them in large enough quantities when you can buy a plastic gun with incredible reliability for 1/3 the cost ?

Who buys a $400 Swiss watch anymore when you can buy a $15 Timex that works as well or better ?

Having said that - I love the squeeze cocker design, and if they could have made this gun inexpensively like a Glock, they may well be ruling the handgun market right now instead of Glock.
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I wear a Rolex, was $3,500.00 few years back, I gladly would pay $$$$ for a new P7 M13
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Old 09-30-2014, 01:11   #10
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Presumably because it is very expensive to both make and buy, and who would buy them in large enough quantities when you can buy a plastic gun with incredible reliability for 1/3 the cost ?

Who buys a $400 Swiss watch anymore when you can buy a $15 Timex that works as well or better ?

Having said that - I love the squeeze cocker design, and if they could have made this gun inexpensively like a Glock, they may well be ruling the handgun market right now instead of Glock.
or if the military trials to replace the 1911 werent rigged. the ONLY pistol to meet or exceed the requirements in phase one testing was the p7m13. it was not selected to advance for phase two testing.
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or if the military trials to replace the 1911 werent rigged. the ONLY pistol to meet or exceed the requirements in phase one testing was the p7m13. it was not selected to advance for phase two testing.
Hmmmmm ... very interesting Majette!
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I assume they figured out they had finally produced something that was innovative and useful and that didn't go along with their business model.
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Old 09-30-2014, 18:04   #13
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I assume they figured out they had finally produced something that was innovative and useful and that didn't go along with their business model.
And I thought George Carlin was clever ..... that's hysterical Bren!

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And I thought George Carlin was clever ..... that's hysterical Bren!

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I exaggerate - it's not really that useful; the squeeze cocking promotes bad grip. However, it's still the coolest handgun ever to come from H&K.

I have no problem with their long guns - except that the G36 seems to be a collection of bad ideas stuck together.
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the G36 seems to be a collection of bad ideas stuck together.
That's a K.O. insult line - I'll file that away for future use!

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Old 09-30-2014, 19:25   #16
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Too expensive to manufacture. But, awesome example of handgun engineering; love mine.


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Old 09-30-2014, 22:11   #17
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Manufacturing costs were high and, honestly, the folks at HK that were building them had retired. It sounds silly, but that was part of it.

Hand crafting fine guns like the P7 series is a dying art, unfortunately.
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Old 09-30-2014, 22:24   #18
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I'm waiting for the Scandium frame remake.

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Old 10-01-2014, 06:11   #19
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I'm waiting for the Scandium frame remake.
With an MSRP to compete with Wilson?
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With an MSRP to compete with Wilson?
There was a brief Re-Issue of the P7M8 to the HK Pistol offerings in late 90s or even 2002 with a nominal amount on NIB or newly then produced examples making it to our shores ????
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