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Old 11-09-2004, 12:55   #1
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Firefox 1.0 final released

Mozilla Firefox 1.0 final was released today.
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Old 11-09-2004, 15:15   #2
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The primary download server is nearly seized up! I downloaded a copy and will be spreading it around my offices this afternoon. Any big release plans DC?
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Old 11-09-2004, 16:20   #3
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Nice! This new version actually finds plugins to download - like Java and Flash. It's a keeper.
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Old 11-10-2004, 06:05   #4
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Some extensions may have to be slightly modified to work with 1.0.
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Old 11-10-2004, 11:10   #5
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So what does this mean for Mozilla long term? I am currently a heavy user of Mozilla 1.7.3, and love the integration of mail and web. But it appears that if I change to firefox, I lose that integration. Is that correct? I know there is the Thunderbird email client, but now I have to have two separate applications running? Do you think Mozilla will merge the trees of Firefox and Thunderbird?
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Mozilla's roadmap statement is to taper off the development of the integrated Mozilla enviroment and shift focus completely to the stand alone products. They are working to make Firefox and Thunderbird the flagship products.

I certainly hope that they create a cohesive environment much like we find in Mozilla 1.X.X, but currently the development thrust is aimed a stand alone offerings.

I like having an identical environment between the two operating environments that I have here, MS and Linux. Everything looks and behaves the same regardless of platform. I do not want to have to hunt for seperate applications.
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Old 11-10-2004, 16:51   #7
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Wow, FF is even getting news coverage.

Link ==> Yahoo News Story
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Old 11-10-2004, 20:46   #8
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The integration you're speaking of is one of the reasons why IE and OE are full of security leaks and vulnerable to viruses.
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Quote:
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The integration you're speaking of is one of the reasons why IE and OE are full of security leaks and vulnerable to viruses.
Who are you answering?
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The integration you're speaking of is one of the reasons why IE and OE are full of security leaks and vulnerable to viruses.
I don't agree with this. Mozilla has done a great job with the 1.x.x tree. Most of IE's problems can be traced to Microsoft's historical lack of attention to security and proper coding. With Mozilla being open source, those types of problems don't happen. Just my $0.02.

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Old 11-11-2004, 06:32   #11
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I'm not saying that Mozilla is any less secure because of the integration, I'm just saying it's one of Microsoft's biggest flaws. Having seperate clients helps reduce vulnerability.
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Anyone upgraded to Thunderbrid .9 yet?

I'm pretty happy with .6.

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I'm not saying that Mozilla is any less secure because of the integration, I'm just saying it's one of Microsoft's biggest flaws. Having seperate clients helps reduce vulnerability.
Microsoft's biggest flaw is allowing a web browser to access the entire system. The integration that kills MS security in IE and OE is more from ActiveX and that IE is hooked so deeply into the system.

Mozilla's "integration" is a different animal all together, the applications simply work together instead of owning the entire system while they are running.
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Old 11-11-2004, 12:08   #14
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Anyone upgraded to Thunderbrid .9 yet?

Yes, and I really don't see much difference. The improvements must mostly be in the background.
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Old 11-11-2004, 19:54   #15
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I upgraded to 1.0 last night and I really like it. That Ad-Block plug-in does wonders for certain gun forums that fly lots of unwanted banners.

The only flaw I have seen so far is unistalling plug-in's. I downloaded a bunch thinking I would sort though what I wanted to keep and get rid of the rest. After unistalling, restarting the browser and the computer all the plug-in's still remain in place and active and in the plug-in menu the plug-in's I disabled still show as "Will be removed when Firefox is restarted". I cannot get rid of them.

I also moved to 0.9 Thunderbird, I don't see any real difference in features or anything. I guess it just addressed security issues.
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Old 11-12-2004, 00:53   #16
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I pray that they keep the two apps seperate!

All I want is a good browser, nothing else.

If they screw this up, I'm going back to Opera.


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Old 11-12-2004, 01:49   #17
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I totally agree. I've always subscribed to the UNIX philosophy that less is more. Hence small, well-focused applications. As a result you end up with freedom to use apps like building blocks instead of being tied up in integrated software prisons.
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Old 11-12-2004, 13:20   #18
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Here is an interesting email I got from a member in our local LUG. He is quoting from slashdot.

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For those of you who don't regular Slashdot throughout the day, here
is a funny article that is near the top of the headlines:

"A CNET article claims that 'just days after the launch of open-source
browser Firefox 1.0, Microsoft executives defended Internet Explorer,
saying it is no less secure than any other browser and doesn't lack
any important features.' It's also interesting to note that these
statements made by Steve Vamos, Microsoft Australia's managing
director, come with no knowledge of what Firefox has to offer as he
admits not even installing or using Firefox."

Funny, funny, funny.

Happy hacking.
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