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Old 12-25-2004, 09:43   #26
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Yep, and the best part of it is I'm almost 40. Hey when i got back into riding i bought a cruiser, because thats what old people are suppose to do. But it just wasn't right. have a big honda now, its to big to throw around.
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Old 12-25-2004, 10:03   #27
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I guess im a young idiot. Iride a turbo ZX9R.Its nice to think im young again!!! I do ride mine daily, and safly on the streets! Ive rode "crotch rockets" for about 11 years now.

So I guess Im an IDIOT!?!?!?
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Old 12-25-2004, 13:10   #28
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So I guess Im an IDIOT!?!?!?
It's plausible, your location is listed as Arkansas.

BTW I think you mean Samuel Colt, not "Samual Colt".
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Old 12-25-2004, 20:02   #29
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BTW I think you mean Samuel Colt, not "Samual Colt".
LOL... and to put a fine point on it, God made Man, not men.
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Old 12-28-2004, 23:32   #30
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I love the performance. I dont't ride fast on the street. But it's to easy to book track day's. I have done three so far. Here's a pick of me on the green bike at California Speedway.
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Old 12-29-2004, 00:37   #31
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Not young 41, Not an idiot, but here is my mid life crisis. I do it on the track.
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Old 12-29-2004, 14:11   #32
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matt3310,

If you are doing 100mph+ weaving in and out of freeway lanes on your crotchrocket and/or doing wheelies in traffic, then yes, you're an idiot. If you're not, then you're not an idiot.

Save it for the track, or for obscure highway that you KNOW there aren't any traffic around.

I don't care if the hotrodders kill themselves doing stunts, but I do care if they do it around me and probably get my assed killed along with them.
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Old 01-02-2005, 18:39   #33
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Just because you ride a sport bike and because you ride fast on the street doesnt make you an idiot. I have rode dirtbikes, sportbikes, and harleys and they all have a different application. If you want to ride on long flat roades, ride a cruiser. If you want to jump and rip it up in the dirt, ride a dirtbike. If you want to go fast and turn hard, you ride a sportbike. There is an adrenaline rush that you get from riding like that. Someone who doesnt ride sportbikes doesnt experience this. Ducati riders wouldnt know either because ducatis are slow.
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Old 01-03-2005, 04:37   #34
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It's plausible, your location is listed as Arkansas.

BTW I think you mean Samuel Colt, not "Samual Colt".
I guess you just outed another asshat in your own state.
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Old 01-03-2005, 10:06   #35
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because you ride fast on the street doesnt make you an idiot.

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There's no denying in the rush coming off riding a sportsbike. But if you ride fast in the streets in the middle of traffic, then you are an idiot.

If you weave in and out of traffic either on a street or a freeway full of cars trying to save a few minutes to your destination, then you are an idiot.

If you trying to do 100MPH+ on a freeway with traffic around you, then you are an idiot.

If you try to do wheelies at 80MPH with cars around you then you are an idiot.

I don't know how much plainer I can make my point.

That's why there are tracks available to be used. That's why you need to explore where you live and ride and find roads that are not often used by anyone.
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Old 01-03-2005, 19:42   #36
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Old 01-03-2005, 20:40   #37
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You'd never catch this 52 year-old Harley rider going side by side with my Road King Classic against a Dyna Wide Glide going 115 mph. No, not me.
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Old 01-04-2005, 09:58   #38
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it's not just the sportbike crowd that rides that way

In the early 90's I was a Harley Owner and rode with lots of Harley guys. In all honesty, they were worse than the sportbike crew I also rode with.

No helmets, shirts were optional, and they loved to drink.

True, the majority of the sportbikers out there are the younger adrenaline crowd but I'm a sportbiker and don't ride that way.
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Old 01-15-2005, 19:06   #39
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I'm 44 and been riding since I was 9. I ride a rice rocket( Suzuki SV650) and don't ride like an idiot, but it does piss me off when I see others riding like one. Why? Insurance rates, that's why!
As a youngster I learned from my dad and brother, who were much more skilled than I, that it's not how fast you go, it's how you go fast.
Also, what you ride is as much a matter of preference as what you shoot.
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You'd never catch this 52 year-old Harley rider going side by side with my Road King Classic against a Dyna Wide Glide going 115 mph. No, not me.
That's cause stock Harley's can't go 115 MPH!!!!!!!;f

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Old 01-17-2005, 10:15   #41
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Motorcycle safety activists worried about baby boomer deaths
By David Sharp, Associated Press, 1/15/2005 13:39

PORTLAND, Maine (AP) Mike Cullinan broke up with his girlfriend and started a new life. Part of that new life included buying a big Harley-Davidson motorcycle: a 620-pound Dyna Low Rider with a 1,450-cc, fuel-injected engine.

At 38, Cullinan was undergoing just the sort of transformation that happens to many men approaching middle age: empty nest, divorce or just plain old mid-life crisis. Those riders, mostly baby boomers, are driving up the number of motorcycle registrations nationwide.

They also make up the fastest-growing segment of motorcycle deaths.

Across the country, the number of motorcycle fatalities among riders in the 40-plus category has jumped 200 percent over the past decade while deaths among riders under 30 actually dropped, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

''It's really kind of astonishing: The ages of these fatalities are so high. You would think it would be all of the young kids on those fast bikes, but it's not,'' said Carl Hallman, highway safety coordinator with the Maine Department of Public Safety.

According to NHTSA's National Center for Statistics and Analysis, the mean age of motorcyclists killed rose from 32 in 1994 to 38 in 2003. The surge in deaths among older riders helped to push motorcycle fatalities higher overall. They jumped by nearly half during the past five years, from 2,483 in 1999 to 3,661 in 2003.

In Maine, 22 people were killed on motorcycles in 2004, the highest level in a decade. The numbers are even more dramatic in Vermont and New Hampshire.

In New Hampshire, 29 died, compared to nine the year before. In Vermont, there were 11 fatal crashes, more than in the three previous years combined. In all three states, riders in their 30s and older accounted for the most crashes.

Safety experts say many older riders are either returning to the sport after a lengthy absence or have no prior experience.

''From a career standpoint, they have a little extra time and a little extra disposable income. The kids have grown up, so they're looking for hobbies,'' said Rae Tyson, a NHTSA spokesman who specializes in motorcycle safety.

That fits with the experience of many instructors.

''I've seen a definite increase in men in their 40s and 50s getting back into motorcycling. They haven't ridden in 20 or 30 years, so their skills are rusty. Motorcycles have changed, and they're getting bigger motorcycles. And they're getting on without a refresher course,'' said Cathy Rimm, program director for Motorcycle Rider Education of Maine.

No one knows exactly why baby boomers are dying at a faster clip on motorcycles because there hasn't been a national study of the causes of motorcycle accidents since the late 1970s, Tyson said. Motorcycle groups are pressing for an update.

Big, powerful bikes appear to be part of the explanation. NHTSA data show that both engine displacement and fatalities among riders with the largest class of engines rose during the past decade.

Safety officials say older riders thinking about hitting the open road should recognize that their eyesight and reflexes aren't what they once were. They also say the importance of a refresher course cannot be overstated.

''In our experienced-rider courses, we do take into account the way your body changes, that your reaction time will change and that your eyesight will change. There are changes older riders should make,'' said Mike Mount, spokesman for the Motorcycle Safety Foundation in Irvine, Calif.

In many ways, Cullinan fits the stereotype of an older rider.

The repair shop manager from Standish hadn't ridden for 15 years, and his life underwent a big change when he broke off a relationship.

He spent more than $18,000 for his ride, a black low rider with chrome. He freely admits bravado played a role, along with enough income to make it a reality.

''I went for the largest bike I could handle, or that I hope I can handle,'' he said.

Though Maine and many other states require classes or clinics for new riders to get motorcycle licenses, there are no such requirements for a license holder who decides to get on a bike for the first time in decades. No state requires continuing periodic education, said Kathy Van Kleeck of the Motorcycle Safety Foundation.

Cullinan said his eyes were opened by the statistics. He has bought a helmet, which is not required in Maine, and he's taking a refresher course this winter so he'll be prepared for taking to the roads this spring.

''I'm hoping I will learn something that'll make me safer,'' he said. ''I'll be riding this spring and summer with my eyes open.''

On the Net:

Motorcycle Safety Foundation http://www.msf-usa.org

National Highway Transportation Safety Administration www.nhtsa.dot.gov/
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Old 01-17-2005, 10:36   #42
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Good article. And very much accurate. Too many guys my age are trying to recapture their youth but going about it the wrong way.
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Old 01-17-2005, 11:28   #43
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Roger that. I am soon to be 38 and have just gotten back into riding after nearly 13 years of hiatus. I probably bought too big of a bike for me (BMW Rockster), but at least I know enough not to get it out on the main streets but keep to the back streets for now until I get used to the weight and the handling of the bike. Not to mention attending the Basic Ridercourse at MSF and loaded up on riding gears.
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Old 01-20-2005, 15:30   #44
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That is definately an interesting article. I would have to ssay the sudden resurgence of older men wanting to ride motorcycles is due to the popularity of motorcycle/chopper shows on TV. They see it on American Chopper or whatever and feel they could be a part of something they might have once wanted be, but couldn't. They go buy a new Harley or chopper(face it the youngins, like me, cannot afford a Harley or chopper), and feel that it couldn't be all that hard. Generally they don't wear safety gear unless they have to. Then they find out there is more to riding a motorcycle than just, twist the grip and turn the bars. It's too late.

I am not condemning the shows. I think it's good TV and is good for the motorcyle market altogether. I am just saying people need to go about things in a more cautious manner.

Now about the "punk kids" thing. I think the reason for the decline of younger riders is due to the fact that some of these "idiots" doing wheelies such have actually been riding bikes and dirtbikes since they could walk. I know some of these "idiots" and some of them are REALLY good riders, not all but some. Is it safe for them to do wheelies on public roads with traffic? No. But, just because they are doing it doesn't mean they are horrible riders and would "pee thier pants if they compressed a fork". Hell, one person I know that does this races 125cc motocross and is EXTREMELY fast.

Alot of people who are into the street freestyle stuff would love to go to an empty parking lot but, the police come to arrest them if they do. They do it on the street so they at least have a way to blend into traffic so they can lower thier odds of a cop seeing them, unlike being a sitting duck with "arrest me" written on them in an empty lot.

Also another reason for death-rates dropping in the under 30 group. Riding gear is "cool" now. The flashy helmets, leather jackets, and gloves show you ride a bike. Flashy or not that stuff will save your butt. Again, the street riding "idiot" made that cool. Why? They KNOW they will wreck at some point, so be prepared.

So you got "idiot kids" whom grew up riding and like riding gear acting like a cocky kid on a bike. Versus some middle-aged guy who decided to take up motorcycles because of a TV show and buys a big bike to be "cool" and does not wear any protective gear because TV says that would be NOT "cool".

I base this on my own personal experience, it may be different where you live, but this is what I see. Also these were quite broad generalizations. Not everyone falls into a catagory, but the rise of chopper-TV coincides quite nicely with the rise of middle-aged motorcycle deaths.
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Old 01-20-2005, 15:59   #45
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Old 01-24-2005, 19:20   #46
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Good article B.G.
I wonder how much of a factor alcohol is in the stats?
Most of the people I know who ride Harleys drink like fish. We have a group of riders in our small town who like to get on their flashy H.D's ( or pseudo H.Ds.) with open pipes in the summer and cruise up to the local watering hole. Later in the evening you can hear them roaring back presumably to their homes. These guys are all 40 somethings.
I am not saying all H.D riders are drinkers. But it goes with the lifestyle they are trying to imitate.
It could also be that there are just more cars to deal with on the road today.
Dr. Harry Hurt authored a ground breaking study on motorcycle deaths. He established at that time, that there was no real relationship between larger more powerful bikes and chance of a fatal accident. Smaller bikes were over represented in the statistics, probably because younger inexperienced riders were more likely to purchase a smaller bike.
My father in law died while riding his bike. He was 74 years old, and a 30,000 mile a year rider. I saw it happen.
It wasn't because he was speeding, drinking, or had slow reflexes.
He was just plain unlucky.
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I'm a R1 rider. Very safe, I have yet to do a wheelie. I do know a lot of people that are morons on bikes and b/c of that I won't ride with them. Riding with people like that will just get you killed.

Today I was at the mall with my wife and I noticed two harley riders getting on their bikes in the parking lot. They were at least 45 years old. Few seconds later we heard them revving their motors, then they TORE through the crowded parking lot. I made a comment to my wife about how it was ironic how the sportbike crowd has such a bad image among cruisers but yet they do the same thing.

I've just came to the conclusion, every type does it. I don't care who you are or what you ride. There are people that ruin it for everyone.

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Im young and quite often act like an idiot but you dont have to worry about me weaving in and out of traffic at 120 because this is what I ride. lets see what happens to some of those idiots on crotch rockets when you put them on a motocross track.;f
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Im young and quite often act like an idiot but you dont have to worry about me weaving in and out of traffic at 120 because this is what I ride. lets see what happens to some of those idiots on crotch rockets when you put them on a motocross track.;f
Like I explained before, a lot of the "idiots on crotch rockets" grew up on a motocross track. That's one reason why they love wheelies so much and are skilled at it. They had practice on power-wheelie prone dirtbikes (or quads).
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