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Old 12-14-2006, 12:23   #81
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So I'm wondering what will happen if the BG isn't wearing 4 denim jackets and 2 t-shirts. More expansion? Less? More penetration? Less? I'm just a 19 year old peace-loving gun nut trying to figure out what to put in my G20 for 2-legged threats when the time comes.
Also I was thinking along the lines of a P-11 for a BUG, and am curious what the shorter barrel will do to the 9mm +P numbers. I'm thinking penetration goes up, expansion goes down?

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Old 12-22-2006, 02:09   #82
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I can only comment on Mike's 10mm and 357 Sig loads. I say DT is The Only One. Seriously, in these 2 calibers, DT is second to none. This is all my opinion and YMMV.
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Old 01-01-2007, 10:57   #83
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Old 02-03-2007, 12:28   #84
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45 GAP

Who manufacturers the 165gr HP in your 45 GA?P load? I know that Sierra and Barns make such products.

Are any geletin test results available for the 45 GAP loads?

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Old 02-11-2007, 11:54   #85
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This newer .45acp 165gr. pill moving out @ 1325fps. looks nice! Do you have any gel tests on it yet? I'm also interested in its performance from a 6 inch barrel?
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Old 02-13-2007, 04:02   #86
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Mike do you have a dealer in Asia Pacific area? Australia and New Zealand are crying out for Double Tap Ammo!
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Old 02-14-2007, 07:36   #87
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Using the G29, the 180gr GDHP:
15.5" .98"
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Old 03-03-2007, 23:39   #88
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Yeah - how does that work? It penetrated farther and expanded more fully than when fired from a G20? Mike?
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Old 03-04-2007, 00:31   #89
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" Yeah - how does that work? It penetrated farther and expanded more fully than when fired from a G20? Mike? "

Besides velocity differences which weren't mentioned, even lot to lot of a particular bullet can vary more than you would think.

One of the websites that used to post a lot of data on handgun ammunition performance noted a great deal of difference between bullet lots. Seems the manufactures aren't afraid to mess with the bullet designs / materials, sometimes making subtle or, not so subtle changes and the slight differences in materials might also be a factor at times AND they don't exactly announce that they have made changes....so you just don't know without testing once in awhile.

From what I have seen in tests of the 180 GDHP in 40, it does tend to open very consistently even on 4 layer denim tests (read no plugging)....but I don't recall if they were the bonded or regular GDHP bullets that were tested.

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Old 03-04-2007, 12:17   #90
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" Yeah - how does that work? It penetrated farther and expanded more fully than when fired from a G20? Mike? "


From the G20, the petals are folding back on themselves with the extra speed.
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Old 03-12-2007, 16:09   #91
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Mike, when will the .450smc be available? I already have my G21 set up for .45Super and with Caspian finally gearing up for a G20/21 longslide, this would be an excellent addition for all of us "horsepower freaks"
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Old 05-15-2007, 10:53   #92
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I can tell y'all this...

I got my defense magazine mixed up with a hunting magazine recently and popped a 115 pound wild hog with a 135gr DT load and she tumbled pretty fast. She was dead on her feet and ran about 30 feet as she toppled over slowly. No exit but massive internal destruction.

I prefer the 180 Gold Dots I bought for hog hunting but light bullets kill very well too.

Don't overanalyze too much.

Mike's bullets are "the bomb" and kill almost as well as a rifle if you place your shots well.

I didn't go as far as to sell my 41 mag but it doesn't get out in the woods nearly as often of late...

My G20 stoked with Double Taps gives me the confidence to say....

Yea though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil....

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Old 05-15-2007, 11:04   #93
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I can tell y'all this...

I got my defense magazine mixed up with a hunting magazine recently and popped a 115 pound wild hog with a 135gr DT load and she tumbled pretty fast. She was dead on her feet and ran about 30 feet as she toppled over slowly. No exit but massive internal destruction.

I prefer the 180 Gold Dots I bought for hog hunting but light bullets kill very well too.

Very interesting. I had always wondered how a 135 would perform on a tough critter...
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Old 06-02-2007, 08:26   #94
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Yeah - how does that work? It penetrated farther and expanded more fully than when fired from a G20? Mike?
More likely, it folded back beyond its max expansion with the G-20, and because of the short neck length, didn't penetrate as far as the G29's projectile. You can also see this phenomenon with .357 Sig bullets penetrating less than a slower 9mm load.
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Old 06-13-2007, 20:55   #95
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Note from Mike on DT velocities from G20 Longslide (6" barrel)

Dropped a note to Mike a couple of days ago on this topic, curious about performance data for some of his rounds, and got this back. Good Lord.

135gr - 1735fps
180gr FMJ - 1350fps
180gr XTP - 1445fps
200gr XTP - 1340fps
200gr FMJ - 1365fps
200gr. BT - 1395fps
230gr WFN - 1200fps
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Old 08-10-2007, 16:04   #96
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Mike:
What length barrel did you use, and gun, for the 357 results?
Thanks

I'm VERY intrested in 450SMC. Anytime soon, what results?
Heck, your getting almost 45 Super velocities already in your 45ACP loadings. How about a PLUS PLUS P version, maybe in stronger brass, that goes 45 Super specs? I'd really like a 230 grain Gold Dot going 1200 fps, out of a 5" barrel.

I'd also like to see Gelatin on the 165's at 1300 plus as well.
I suspect there is a reason Detonics used 200 grain bullets in 451Detonics.

I see a REAL good market for Glock 30's and 45SMC...




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Old 09-16-2007, 14:43   #97
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Thanks for the info. I just ordered a few hundred rounds from your website.
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Old 10-17-2007, 03:59   #98
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any stats on a .22??
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:48   #99
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Has the .380acp Gold Dot (and FMJ) been shot into gelatin yet, preferably from a P3AT.
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Old 12-19-2007, 17:00   #100
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Has the .380acp Gold Dot (and FMJ) been shot into gelatin yet, preferably from a P3AT.
I would be afraid the Kel-tec would disintergate in my hand or the slide would be imbedded somewhere in my body. Both of the ones I owned spent more time in Florida @ the Factory then they did with me.Since they have a warning not to fire +p I wound not fire a DT load from one. Just My opinion based on my experience.
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