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Old 05-03-2009, 22:44   #121
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Really, you can't say **** chat. Geez.

Well, there are sub forums for paid members, often by invite, where those filters go away.
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Old 05-03-2009, 22:44   #122
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I see results for .45ACP 230gr JHP's, but none listed for sale on the web site. Am I missing something?
http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/cat...products_id=95

I've never seen them gone... Maybe you just missed them?

He used to use Gold Dot's, but the "Bonded defense" look like the same load. Don't know if the name changed but the bullet is the same, or what...
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Old 05-04-2009, 06:08   #123
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Thanks Rottn. Not sure how I missed those.
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Old 05-13-2009, 11:41   #124
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I think that the 165 GD Expanding to 1.08 is astounding. A round going through vital tissue while expanding to the size of a quarter.
Doubling its size with penetration. I did carry the 155 gr. I think I've just changed to the 165s.
The 200 gr XTP...........Have you done any testing against car doors, walls..........I think you did say 25 inches of pine board.
I usually carry these while in the back woods........but may carry a mag full as a secondary back up mag for defense.
I'm not a big proponent of over penetration anymore, after I did some research, and found little to back up that so called safty issue.
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over an inch of expansion would seem impossible with that bullet's design wouldnt it?

i too would like to see some peer review of the DT 10mm loads, they seem too good to be true, but then again they just might be the best thing out there in 10mm....
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:57   #125
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Their lack of response must mean that Barnes did better than their flagship rounds.

Also, DT did not do well in a .380 test. I still carry their 10mm rounds for self defense, but it is not a good sign when they ignore repeated inquiries from multiple sources. Assume the worst.

I wouldn't go that far as to assume anything from a lack of response. Heck I look at all the data presented here and the work involved to achieve the data as a monumental undertaking. Then on top of that people like me keep asking for more.

The reason I won't go negative on Double Tap is because they are the best thing going for 10MM fans and I appreciate that.
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Old 05-27-2009, 13:14   #126
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I wouldn't go that far as to assume anything from a lack of response. Heck I look at all the data presented here and the work involved to achieve the data as a monumental undertaking. Then on top of that people like me keep asking for more.

The reason I won't go negative on Double Tap is because they are the best thing going for 10MM fans and I appreciate that.

this is quite true. very few companies are making an effort to produce 10mm rounds at 10mm power levels, regardless of bullet design. Cor-bon makes a nice 10mm round though its not loaded much hotter than thier .40cal round. Georgia Arms makes a nice 10mm round but its still only a "warm" load.

Buffalo Bore makes some hot 10mm rounds but the price is high compared to others. Double Tap makes 10mm powered loads, though the bullets used might not be the best for the speeds they are loaded to. but they are making the effort, and i like that.
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Old 07-13-2009, 18:37   #127
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.380 ACP Doubletap Penetration performance results

Hey .380 ACP fans!

I heard back form Mike today and got some penetration results on the .380 loads!

90gr GDHP - 9.5" .53"
95gr JHP - 11.25" .47"

The "JHP" is his newer "XTP JHP" load. The GDHP is his earlier load that does o.k., but is outperformed by the CorBon DPX, for example.

That XTP JHP looks like a winner to me, though- Competitive performance, more reasonably priced- Doubletap FTW!

Those numbers are out of a P3AT, by the way.
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Old 08-28-2009, 08:53   #128
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Over on M4C.net an independent test of DT's 40 S&W 155gr GD load provided an eye opener.

.40 S&W Speer 155 gr Gold Dot JHP; ave vel=1166 fps (S&W 4006); gel cal= 9.5cm@ 585fps
BG: pen=13.2", RD=0.64", RL=0.32", RW=155.5 gr
4 layers denim: pen=16.0", RD=0.60", RL=0.44", RW=155.3gr

.40 S&W Double Tap 155 gr Gold Dot JHP; ave vel=1208 fps (S&W 4006); gel cal=10cm@578fps
BG: pen=15.0", RD=0.66", RL=0.39", RW=155.6gr
4 layer denim: pen=17.1", RD=0.55", RL=0.42", RW=155.2gr

RD=Recovered Diameter
RL=Recovered Length
RW=Recovered Weight

Far cry from DT's internal claimed .76" expansion. I would like to know how they measured the .76 expansion.


http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=26026
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Old 03-07-2010, 18:27   #129
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Mike have you got any results for the 230 gr. wide flat nose , gas checked rounds, the 200 gr. Beartooth rounds and the 200 gr. FMJ flat nose rounds?

I'm not concerned about over penetration?
I too would like to know. Thanks!


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Old 04-16-2010, 07:43   #130
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10mm 155gr. Barnes TAC-XP Data?

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How did the 10MM 155 grain Barnes bullet do in gellatin?

10mm 155gr. Barnes TAC-XP Data? Thanks for great ammo, Mike!
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Old 05-06-2010, 03:17   #131
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Old 05-23-2010, 22:17   #133
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Mike, thank you for this information. You offer excellent ammunition and a great service. Ive ordered 10mm ammo and 45 acp ammo from you on several occasions and have never been let down. Thank you.
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Old 06-19-2010, 10:09   #134
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Any chance on penetration tests on the hardcast loads, Mike?
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Old 12-15-2010, 15:27   #135
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165gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1400fps - 14.25" / 1.02"


1.02" expansion measurement. That is amazing. This round is a freak of nature.

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Old 12-27-2010, 20:25   #136
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Any chance on penetration tests on the hardcast loads, Mike?
No????

I'm assuming the hardcast loads have to be good sellers. I know the data would be much appreciated to the Alaska/Anyone carrying a 10mm for 'tooth and claw' protection...
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Old 02-01-2011, 23:30   #137
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I'm very curious. I would love to see testing done on some 10mm hardcast

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I'm assuming the hardcast loads have to be good sellers. I know the data would be much appreciated to the Alaska/Anyone carrying a 10mm for 'tooth and claw' protection...
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Old 02-24-2011, 17:30   #138
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another vote for hardcast 10mm data. it would be nice to have it. i am about to buy a bunch of these rounds.
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Old 03-03-2011, 10:30   #139
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The data for the hardcast penetration in Ballistic Gel or wet pack paper/phonebooks would be interesting, but something closer to Todd Corder/John Linebaugh's "bone box" would be more on the mark for what I'm looking at in performance from the Double Tap hardcast 10mm.
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/view...?f=77&t=134624
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Old 07-07-2011, 19:18   #140
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Excellent information. It helped me decide what I plan on using for my purposes.

See my last post on the thread Glock2020.
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