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Old 01-11-2015, 11:32   #1
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Honady American Gunner ammo

I bought a box of Hornady American Gunner 30 special. it's 125 gr XTP, Not Plus P, rated at 900 fps at the muzzle. I couldn't find any non Hornady reviews on it. Any body out there try any of this?
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Old 01-11-2015, 16:18   #2
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It uses their XTP bullet, I bought a box of the 9mm 124gr +P version. Should perform about like any other Hornady XTP-loaded ammo they offer.
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Literally same ammo in a different box.
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Old 01-13-2015, 19:23   #4
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I bought a box of Hornady American Gunner 30 special. it's 125 gr XTP, Not Plus P, rated at 900 fps at the muzzle. I couldn't find any non Hornady reviews on it. Any body out there try any of this?
The review is, at 900 fps its not going to be anything special.
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Old 01-15-2015, 06:26   #5
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According to Hornady's website the American Gunner 124 9mm +P is loaded to 1200fps which makes it identical to their TAP FPD line and not the same load as the classic XTP, of course the FPD is nickel brass and who knows how they compare with the flash propellant I'd be interested to know.

Curiously my local Academy now has many boxes of the American Gunner 9mm+P 124gr and the label says fps 1110 at the muzzle just like the standard 124gr. XTP classic.

I was really curious why Hornady would advertise a new load as +P at 1110fps that is the same as the classic XTP 124gr (non +p). I looked up the new American Gunner 9mm+p on their website and it is listed at 1200fps, I would have bought some at 1200fps it's priced well but I will wait for the confusion to clear.

So I'm guessing the labels are wrong on the new AG boxes or Hornady's website is wrong but I doubt that.
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Old 02-24-2015, 00:33   #6
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I want to use the 9mm+ p for shooting wild pigs tearing up fields. Is it enough round for that
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Old 02-24-2015, 08:29   #7
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I want to use the 9mm+ p for shooting wild pigs tearing up fields. Is it enough round for that
How large are they? If they are smaller ones, should work OK. The 147 gr XTP will give you a bit more penetration and would probably be a better choice. If they are really large then another load entirely like a hard cast would be better.
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Old 02-24-2015, 16:45   #8
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I don't believe that anyone has done any testing with the Hornady 125 XTP yet. Be nice to see what the 125 XTP would do out of a snub compared to +P ammo or the Hornady 158 XTP.
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Old 02-24-2015, 17:08   #9
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The only std pressure xtp 125gr .38sp load test I've seen, not bad.
http://www.handgunsmag.com/ammo/ammu...cket_dynomite/
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I wanted some 380 HP ammo (don't judge me! ) and American Gunner was all I could find at that point. Got some. Indistinguishable from other Hornady 380 ammo and shot same, too. I'd buy it again.
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Old 02-24-2015, 20:53   #11
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Don't know how big the pigs are yet. Just put cameras out to see if we can find out when they're comming in. Mite put food out for them
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Like I said before, all this is is the same ammo in different box.

9mm 115XTP "Classic" = 1155fps
9mm 115XTP "American Gunner" = 1155fps

38Spl 125XTP "Classic" = 900fps
38Spl 125XTP "American Gunner" = 900fps

If you compare the other calibers you'll find the same result
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Old 02-25-2015, 02:49   #13
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Like I said before, all this is is the same ammo in different box.

9mm 115XTP "Classic" = 1155fps
9mm 115XTP "American Gunner" = 1155fps

38Spl 125XTP "Classic" = 900fps
38Spl 125XTP "American Gunner" = 900fps

If you compare the other calibers you'll find the same result
Yep I was hopeful because American Gunner is XTP and says on the box it is +P it would be the same ballistics as the TAP FPD but no according to the listed velocity on the box it is identical to the regular XTP Custom.

However and like I said in a previous post if you go to Hornady's website American Gunner 124gr +P is listed 1200fps at the muzzle (same as the TAP) but if you look at the box on the shelves then that same load list the muzzle velocity at 1010fps (same as regular XTP).

So the question is what is the truth? What is says on the box or Hornady's website?
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Yep I was hopeful because American Gunner is XTP and says on the box it is +P it would be the same ballistics as the TAP FPD but no according to the listed velocity on the box it is identical to the regular XTP Custom.

However and like I said in a previous post if you go to Hornady's website American Gunner 124gr +P is listed 1200fps at the muzzle (same as the TAP) but if you look at the box on the shelves then that same load list the muzzle velocity at 1010fps (same as regular XTP).

So the question is what is the truth? What is says on the box or Hornady's website?


And that's the Sixty-Four Thousand Dollar question, isn't it?
Maybe an email to Hornady might get the correct answer. Tell you the truth, if the 124XTP+P is actually pushing only 1010fps instead of 1200fps, I definately wouldn't be interested in buying it. I would hope 1010fps is a misprint on the box.
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I looked for the pigs a couple times. Haven't seen them yet. Just their damage. Caught them on camera at 2:30 am. I'm not to interest at that time
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I looked for the pigs a couple times. Haven't seen them yet. Just their damage. Caught them on camera at 2:30 am. I'm not to interest at that time
May want to check your local Walmart. Saw a few there just yesterday afternoon.
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May want to check your local Walmart. Saw a few there just yesterday afternoon.
I seen some at our Walmart too. Them kind is easy to find. The ones I seen were wearing Pjs
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And that's the Sixty-Four Thousand Dollar question, isn't it?
Maybe an email to Hornady might get the correct answer. Tell you the truth, if the 124XTP+P is actually pushing only 1010fps instead of 1200fps, I definately wouldn't be interested in buying it. I would hope 1010fps is a misprint on the box.
I found some new stock in 9mm 124+p and now the label list the muzzle velocity at 1160, that is better than the 1110 that regular XTP Custom advertises and just under TAP FPD which is 1200.

So now it appears American Gunner is right in between regular Custom and TAP FPD and I think that is about right so I bought some.
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