Mosin Nagant Info! Got something to add? Post it here!

jonathon · 09-16-2005, 23:27

Links and Info:

Different Surplus(and some commercial Russian loadings) tested out of Mosin Nagants Thanks to itisbruno for posting this
Pretty much everything and anything about the history and markings of the Mosin Nagant, and variants
Another Mosin Nagant Reference
Got a sticky bolt? Fix it!
Want to figure out how rare your Mosin Nagant is? Check here!Thanks to 97guns for posting this
7.62x54R bullet types! Want to know what that color is on your bullet tip? Look here!

Misc. Stuff

Stripper Clips:

The one on the left is a genuine Russian Military Stripper clip. These are rare, but they work very well. If you don't mind spending 1/4 the cost of your nice Mosin Nagant on 5 stripper clips, go for it!

The middle one is a poor example of a stripper. Doesn't work to good(doesn't fit in the grooves), and is rather clumsy. Save your money unless you like monkeying around with things!

The far right one is brass. It is easier to work with, but it is soft so long term strength is a big question.

97guns · 09-17-2005, 11:20

http://www.mosinnagant.net/images/m39stocksplices.jpg

from left to right they ARE WAR TIME, IMMEDIATE POST WAR, ANd post war - war time being the most desireable

jonathon · 09-17-2005, 12:35

Well, I think this actually should be scrapped..

I hadn't ever looked at MosinNagant.net, and it looks like they have EVERYTHING imaginable, much better than I could do.

Might be useful to leave this up, as I'm sure theres stuff they've missed(like the ammo tests and descriptions).

97guns · 09-17-2005, 15:28

for determining rarity/value of all the diff. nagants

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinRarity.htm

fowler · 09-20-2005, 15:59

gunboards.com

jonathon · 09-29-2005, 23:40

Just a note on the "Sticky Bolt" issues..

I bought a 91/30 for CHEAP at a gun show, beautiful unissued '43. Action was smooth, and it headspaced good. Looked to have even been unfired, other than what the guy I bought it from said about test firing it and saying it worked fine(which was half the truth..)..

Anyways, it had a BIG bur in the chamber that I missed. I think that is why I picked it up for cheap since the guy didn't know what was doing..

Anyways, took a needle file to it and woila, fixed. Just filed down enough to where there were no more stickies.

Razoreye · 09-30-2005, 20:07

Didn't see this sticky but I already found my way to mosinnagant.net on my own back when I bought it. Sure enough the bolt was sticky as hell, followed the directions on three different days before the stickiness went away. Man I love this gun and everyone should have one.

On a side note: I use some czech surplus ammo. They always say the stuff is corrosive, I don't clean it but every few shoots but I figure that it was made for soldiers shooting substandard ammo, it's good enough for me to use and abuse.

jonathon · 10-02-2005, 22:19

Quote:

Originally posted by Razoreye
On a side note: I use some czech surplus ammo. They always say the stuff is corrosive, I don't clean it but every few shoots but I figure that it was made for soldiers shooting substandard ammo, it's good enough for me to use and abuse.

I don't think it's as horrible as they say, though I believe combine the ammo and an enviroment that is extremely damp or humid, and it will cause issues. If I was in say, AZ and shooting this stuff, I probably wouldn't worry so much. The salts in the corrosive ammo attract moisture however, and in my neck of the woods we get a ton of rain(went shooting in the pouring rain today).

On a side note, I noticed with great pleasure that the steel core ammo does a wonderful job shattering rocks and concrete ;N

kf4zra · 10-14-2005, 12:03

dang i have a rifle rated a #7 and a #9 for rarity on that list

Burncycle · 10-26-2005, 21:52

I've got about a dozen of those stripper clips you've identified as "genuine russian military", and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but I just can't get them to work.

I dunno if I'm stacking them in wrong or what

IronHorseman · 10-30-2005, 13:42

Has anyone here built a Scout Rifle out of a Nagant.My M44 is just begging to be fixed up and this looks pretty appealing to me.

Collecting and Shooting the Military Surplus Rifle (2005) - Surplusrifle.com
Address:http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting...ifle/index.asp

rangerruck · 11-17-2005, 21:18

foundan idea from a site on how to lighten and shortne up the trigger pull. go to home depot and get a pkg of small very thin toothed washers. make sure hole is big enough for the trigger screw to go through. it is o.k. if it is overly big, just dont get the pkg with thehole to small. put one under the trigger spring, rutn the trigger screw back through the hole and tighten, and ta -daa! your done!.

Mogasatator · 12-14-2005, 20:42

I got a 1943 M44 and would like to know where I can get a unused barrel to replace mine...

HOUNDAWG · 12-17-2005, 13:40

Quote:

Originally posted by Mogasatator
I got a 1943 M44 and would like to know where I can get a unused barrel to replace mine...

You can try Numrich Gun Parts Corp. www.gunpartscorp.com
has M44 barrels - stock no. 299740 - for $44.95

Apocalypse_Now · 02-02-2006, 22:11

Since complete M44s on sale at Big 5 are $87 I would just keep it for spare parts and go hand select one there. Clean the bore well and inspect. The good ones I have found rate from 99% to 100% perfect mechanically and bore wise. Stocks will have dings.

I have found numerous excellent condition Nagants including M91/30s with hex receivers at Big 5.. the M91/30s are $84 on sale..it's addictive!

Apocalypse_Now · 02-02-2006, 22:14

Quote:

Originally posted by IronHorseman
Has anyone here built a Scout Rifle out of a Nagant.My M44 is just begging to be fixed up and this looks pretty appealing to me.

Collecting and Shooting the Military Surplus Rifle (2005) - Surplusrifle.com
Address:http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting...ifle/index.asp

Butler Creek stock and a LER scope.. done it, works and looks great, and less than $210! Only about $140 with the original wood stock! I use silvertip Chech ammo

Apocalypse_Now · 02-02-2006, 22:15

One more thing: The aftermarket strippers are indeed junk. Just resign yourself to loading rounds one at a time ;L

axel · 02-09-2006, 20:12

I came across this while searching for 7.62x39 ammo. Seems like a good deal but you tell me. I'm rather new to Milsurp.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/L...54R_Rifle.html

Mosin91/30Lam Laminated Wood Stock Russian Mosin Nagant 91/30 7.62x54R Rifle

Item#Mosin91/30Lam
Rarely seen; these striking 91/30 Mosin Nagant Rifles featuring Laminated wood stocks have Just Arrived and are in very limited quantities. Original Russian Codes on Receiver, Bbl & Stock. Inlcudes accessories shown, and other small metal tools. Refinished to Excellent Condition.

Price: $109.95

KusoJijii · 02-10-2006, 16:30

Hey, that's a great deal for a laminate. I am waiting for my C&R license any day now. When I get it, that's the first thing I'm buying with it! And the Mosin44 on the same page

Apocalypse_Now · 02-11-2006, 10:09

Quote:

Originally posted by axel
I came across this while searching for 7.62x39 ammo. Seems like a good deal but you tell me. I'm rather new to Milsurp.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/L...54R_Rifle.html

Mosin91/30Lam Laminated Wood Stock Russian Mosin Nagant 91/30 7.62x54R Rifle

Item#Mosin91/30Lam
Rarely seen; these striking 91/30 Mosin Nagant Rifles featuring Laminated wood stocks have Just Arrived and are in very limited quantities. Original Russian Codes on Receiver, Bbl & Stock. Inlcudes accessories shown, and other small metal tools. Refinished to Excellent Condition.

Price: $109.95

Only if I could hand select for bore condition after a good cleaning. All my Nagants are battle worthy and have truly excellent bores and matching numbers compared to their traveling companions I rejected, all of which were advertised "excellent" or "refinished" but were not near as nicenice.

Vic303 · 09-20-2006, 16:38

Got a 91/30 and had the mag follower break. Got a giant parts pack from TAPCO for CHEAP! Needed 1 part, and got like 64 various parts! Anyway, TAPCO also included a 5pack of nice repro stripper clips. They look a LOT like the Russian ones in the pic above, but have small retaining tabs on the ends. I will try to get a pic and post it. The stripper did fit into the grooves on my MN very nicely. Have not yet tried it with ammo on the clip though.

97guns · 11-04-2006, 19:50

heres some production numbers for m39's

sako - 59,278
vkt - 38,990
B barrel - 12,889
SK.Y - 10,588
tikka - 5,000
'67-'70 no maker - 5,171 with '69 being the toughest with only around 500 made.

ChuteTheMall · 11-25-2006, 22:50

OK

Mogasatator · 02-27-2007, 22:37

Just got the dies for my nagant for reloading...Anyone here reloadong for their nagant? What powder you using?

Mogasatator · 03-02-2007, 20:40

I have determined that Nagants are not a true 7.62 or .308. My sierra reload book points out that the bore size is really .311. I have measured one to be .312. With this in mind, a .308 bullet would be too sloppy and loose for any accuracy. I have found that the British .303 bullet is a .3105 to .311. The same as the Nagant. If you reload, stay away from using the American 7.62 cal or .308 and go to the British 303 for a more accurate bullet for the nagant. I hear that Sierra may be making the Nagant .311 bullet for reloaders but if found to be expensive you can alway use the .303 Brit.