your thoughts about the springfield microcompact .45 pistol

theTactician · 12-12-2005, 23:19

Im thinking of getting springfield's MC compact lightweight bi-toner .45 cal pistol. for one thing, its really compact, 6+1, can utilize 165 to 230 gr +P+ loads. its comparable in size to the glock 27. what do you think? Some of my shooting pals say that i should get a full size handgun cause most of my handguns are compact in size like the G23 mariner and the HK USP 9mm. I sold my colt mark 4 series 80 full size several months ago coz i didnt like a full size 1911. im not sure if i will love a "compact" size 1911 though. Maybe im a fanatic of compact size handguns for its concealability. My ideal handgun is one that packs hi-impact firepower and easy concealability.
so, what would you suggest for me?
what are your thoughts regarding the springfield microcompact .45 cal pistol? do you know any of its disadvantages? weaknesses? strengths?
Im asking for your opinion cause i wanted to be sure before i spend money for this.

P.S. I sure would like to buy Para-Ordnance's Para-carry .45 cal pistol but its too expensive as compared to the cheaper springfield MC operator

batangueno · 12-12-2005, 23:26

Do you have a pic? Sounds very interesting.

I doubt if we can see that model here in the Philippines.

darwin25 · 12-12-2005, 23:45

Springfield = Imbel. Am I correct?

Django · 12-13-2005, 04:10

New gun/model and may still be in the de-bugging stage. I'd wait a while for the reviews to come out if I were you. Try for size the Glock 36 in .45 Cal. You might find that it may suit your needs.

Allegra · 12-13-2005, 05:05

Ayaw mo ng combat commander? That used to be my carry gun
IMHO , if I can have only 1 gun, that would be it

Mang Danny · 12-13-2005, 11:19

I would not carry a 1911 shorter than a commander size. Shorter ones can be unreliable at the most needed time. YMMV

Django · 12-13-2005, 16:22

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Originally posted by Mang Danny
I would not carry a 1911 shorter than a commander size. Shorter ones can be unreliable at the most needed time. YMMV

+1. Read a couple of reviews on mini .45's. Initial runs of Paras in their sub-compact models were lemons. Also the G36's. However, I think they have already corrected the glitches by now.

isuzu · 12-13-2005, 21:32

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Originally posted by darwin25
Springfield = Imbel. Am I correct?

In a way, yes. Springfield Armory buys frames and slides from Imbel, but the finishing and final assembly is in the U.S.

This could be compared to the Browning Hi-Powers that had stampings of "Made in Belgium, Assembled in Portugal"

isuzu · 12-13-2005, 21:38

Quote:

Originally posted by Mang Danny
I would not carry a 1911 shorter than a commander size. Shorter ones can be unreliable at the most needed time. YMMV

I concur with you, Mang Danny. I wouldn't carry anything shorter than a Commander sized 1911. Try Colt's website: www.coltsmfg.com . They've released a new line up of pistols, and even have a couple of .38 super pistols.

Springfield Armory is testing a micro compact 1911 in .45 GAP. There's not enough data regarding its performance.

theTactician · 12-14-2005, 00:22

actually sirs,i developed the idea of buying springfield's micro compact .45 cal from a magazine that i read here in the united states. its a magazine called "guns and weapons' and so far the reviews are good. im not sure though. i dont trust these americans. hehehe. i'dlike to get the opinion of my fellow bogs and filipino gun colleagues.

Vault Keeper · 12-14-2005, 00:30

I use to have a PT145 Taurus. Its practically the same size as my G26. I can even use G26 holster for it. Advantage, concealability is perfet! I can even use my P14 mag as extra.

Shootability, i say...ok na rin for the size of it. Di mo naman siguro gagamitin sa long range...

Going back to your inquiry, I guess quality wise ok yan. But I bet its a bit pricey...why not go for the PT145? or something cheaper.

Mang Danny · 12-14-2005, 11:31

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Springfield Armory is testing a micro compact 1911 in .45 GAP. There's not enough data regarding its performance.

Just imagine, a Glock designed ammo in a JMB designed pistol. Hihimatayin ang mga 1911 purists! ;f

alpha1g23 · 12-14-2005, 11:45

sir may i suggest try mo glock23 if you have friends or gun buddy who happens to have one im sure youll liked it and leave all your worries behind, i have armscor in 40 cal just bought bnew 2days ago but my carry gun is g23 load with recoil reduction system,3.5pnds connector for much softer pull all internal parts polish.

MR_BIG · 12-14-2005, 17:55

sir, may i suggest a g30, 10+1 rounds of 230gr+p cant go wrong, plus its easy to carry IWB(maraming pang spare parts sa final option), btw sometimes they call it a fistfull of 45s

jasonub · 12-14-2005, 18:33

for a carry gun i choose the hk usp full sized in 45 acp. since i have used one for years and shot it a lot without any problems. then the 40 version then the 9mm version.

I dont like compact guns since i demand a lot of accuracy. but if i were to choose the smallest gun for carry and not shot a lot it may be the glock 30.

Allegra · 12-14-2005, 18:38

hehe lalo nalito yung nagtanong
Handgun mag did an article a long time ago - 4 top trainers pick their carry guns - dalawa lang ang choice - g19 or combat commander

isuzu · 12-14-2005, 20:04

I got a chance to try my friend's Colt's Officer's Model a few years back. The recoil was uncomfortable. I'd go for the Commander.

theTactician · 12-14-2005, 21:52

how about a delta elite? but then its a full size 1911 only a little shorter than your standard full sized 1911s.

MDAP713 · 12-15-2005, 02:28

How about a Bersa Thunder 380 for a CCW?

MDAP713

darwin25 · 12-15-2005, 02:34

Quote:

Originally posted by MDAP713
How about a Bersa Thunder 380 for a CCW?

MDAP713

Let horge do the honors

MDAP713 · 12-15-2005, 02:46

The reason I posted the Bersa Thunder 380 for CCW, is because i passed by PB Dionisio this morning and the price for the Bersa Thunder 380 pistol is only 14K. I'm contemplating on getting one for carry.

Thanks,

MDAP713

***horge*** · 12-15-2005, 03:08

Quote:

Originally posted by MDAP713
How about a Bersa Thunder 380 for a CCW?
MDAP713

Hi Darwin,

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Hi MDAP713!

BERSA Thunder 380?
Accuracy, natural pointability and a cartridge omnivore, for sure...
However, since it's flinging "only" .380 ACP, there is greater demand for
good shot placement and multiple hits. Easy to get rapid double-tap and
even triple-tap hits with practice.

Don't get me wrong, .380 is plenty deadly...
if you put it where it counts.

The gun can get dirty after 5-10 mags of shooting, depending on ammo used,
and the crud can affect function --but in a real self-defense situation
you're really not going to have a chance to run more than 2 mags

It is a good, solid little blaster, and sells very, very well in the US,
to overwhelmingly positive reviews. I love mine.
Check out the link in my sig-line below if you like

Now, .380 ACP is less likely to overpenetrate and harm innocents beyond,
but that also means there's the risk (given odd angles) that it
won't penetrate deep enough to disrupt vital organs sufficiently
to immediately stop an attacker.

This is why .380 shooters (IMHO) should train/go for multiple hits
no matter what. The Thunder 380 packs 7+1 or 9+1 rounds of ammo,
depending on the mag you get.

The vast majority of attackers back off when shot at, moreso when
they are actually hit, but we always have to consider worst cases.

Thus, I'd also urge you consider a BERSA Mini Thunder 9:

A bit thicker/longer/taller than the Thunder 380, but still concealable,
and with 10+1 rounds of much hotter 9mm Parabellum in 'em.
They cost much more than the Thunder 380's, and IIRC, P.B.Dionisio has them in stock.

Lots of other nice, concealable 9mm's out there!
JMO, but if you go with 9mm, stick with JHP's to minimize any tendency
towards overpenetration.

hth

horgy porgy