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Old 07-03-2006, 19:45   #26
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That's wierd. I won't go anywhere else when it comes to gunsmith services - Dave is awesome, friendly, won't b.s. you, and really knows his stuff.

But in my opinion the selection on firearms is poor and their prices are obscene. They do get some neat pieces, but I wouldn't buy a gun from them unless they were willing to come down on price. Ammo is right out.

I'd try Total in Holt or Shupeck's (sp) in Jackson before buying at Classic.
The worst place in Michigan is Total Firearms in Holt/Mason (It is a Mason address, though it seems closer to Holt)

This place is WAY overpriced, far higher than Classic, and most of the staff are ignorant, arrogant, and downright rude. I will never go back to Total. They treat customers as an intrusion, and they know nothing about firearms. I am speaking of most of the staff, not necessarily all of them.

They do have the largest selection in the mid-Michigan area, but that does not give them the right to treat their customers like crap. This is not based on one visit, but on the 5 or 6 times I have been in their shop and the 2 or 3 times I have called them on the phone. They were NOT helpful. As I said, I will not go back.

I have dealt with Classic many times, and their prices, while not like Wal-Mart, are reasonable (far less than Total), and their people are far more knowledgable and friendly. That means a lot to me. I would rather pay slightly more and have good service that to be treated like ***** at Total.

Classic will get my business from now on...Total will not see me again.
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Old 07-05-2006, 09:29   #27
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The worst place in Michigan is Total Firearms in Holt/Mason (It is a Mason address, though it seems closer to Holt)

This place is WAY overpriced, far higher than Classic, and most of the staff are ignorant, arrogant, and downright rude. I will never go back to Total. They treat customers as an intrusion, and they know nothing about firearms. I am speaking of most of the staff, not necessarily all of them.

They do have the largest selection in the mid-Michigan area, but that does not give them the right to treat their customers like crap. This is not based on one visit, but on the 5 or 6 times I have been in their shop and the 2 or 3 times I have called them on the phone. They were NOT helpful. As I said, I will not go back.

I have dealt with Classic many times, and their prices, while not like Wal-Mart, are reasonable (far less than Total), and their people are far more knowledgable and friendly. That means a lot to me. I would rather pay slightly more and have good service that to be treated like ***** at Total.

Classic will get my business from now on...Total will not see me again.
Wow. Interesting differences in perception. I've been hit & miss in customer service at Classic and at Total (about 3/5 of the time positive/value added). I tried to buy a g34 from both shops about 6 months ago. Total wanted $639. Classic wanted $649. Of course, Guns Galore in Fenton wanted either $579 or $589, meaning that they got my business.

I don't have anything against the people at Classic. I just get pissy when someone tries to sell me 115gr 9mm American Eagle for over $12/box "on sale."
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Old 07-19-2006, 07:47   #28
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The Firing Line has a beautiful range. Staff has always been friendly to me. Not always the best prices, but good selection.
Firing Line recently dropped their firearms prices significantly - they're on par with Guns Galore and Firearms Exchange now.
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Old 11-03-2006, 20:38   #29
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Randy's Hunting Center in Bad Axe. I had the pleasure or meeting and dealing with John for a bit and I was very impressed. hell of a guy to deal with.

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Old 11-09-2006, 12:54   #30
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Muskegon area

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Old 12-10-2006, 20:14   #31
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Marshalls Shooting Center
1550 E. Virginia Dr.
Midland, MI 48642
Tel: (989) 832-8888
Marshalls Shooting Center

After shopping around for a couple weeks, I bought my G17 from Marshalls. Great bunch of guys over there, very knowledgeable and helpful. Oh... there prices are the best I found in my area. Heck Gander Mountain in Saginaw wanted $20 more for a used G17 than I paid for NIB @ Marshalls.

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Old 12-19-2006, 03:10   #32
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Wow. Interesting differences in perception. I've been hit & miss in customer service at Classic and at Total (about 3/5 of the time positive/value added). I tried to buy a g34 from both shops about 6 months ago. Total wanted $639. Classic wanted $649. Of course, Guns Galore in Fenton wanted either $579 or $589, meaning that they got my business.

I don't have anything against the people at Classic. I just get pissy when someone tries to sell me 115gr 9mm American Eagle for over $12/box "on sale."
I'm new here but not to guns or Glocks, I feel the need to defend Total, too. I've been going there for three years or so to use the range. I bought my Beretta from them at a Mason gun show, I have found them friendly and courteous at all times. When I was in the market for a 1911 they took the time to explain the Para and Kimber differences to me. They took a personal interest in my son when he took the CPL class there. I will be going up there this Friday to shoot my new Ultra Carry II. Thanks for a great forum.
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Old 12-19-2006, 20:04   #33
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Just my 2 cents from a new member...

Positives:

MichiGun 'n Tackle in St Clair Shores have always done right by me. Peters in Roseville.
D&D in Troy/Clawson
Little Al at Double Action in Sterling Heights has always given me deals on every gun purchased there - lots of 'em.
Wessels in Livonia.
Big Bear in Mt. Clemens gave me a super deal on a HK USC a few years back.
Guns Galore in Fenton

Neutral:

Target Sports in Royal Oak
Midwest Ordnance in Royal Oak?

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North West Guns in Redford. Very bad deposit policy. I won't even shop there anymore. YMMV.

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Old 12-30-2006, 03:21   #34
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I really like Michi-gun. Those guys are great, and their prices are pretty darn good. Pat and Adam are great guys to deal with. I just picked up an M&P9 compact there the other day.

I don't care for Double Action. The atmosphere just seems unfriendly, and thier prices are astronomical. If you're shooting on their range, forget practicing double taps. They will come out and tell you to slow down.

I really want to like Wessels (because they're close to me), but they have virtually no selection, and they're on par with Double Action price wise, which is not a good thing. The last time I was there, my buddy inquired about having them order a S&W 340PD (because of course they don't stock much). The guy laughed (for some reason) then looked in the S&W catalog and quoted my buddy a price of $850, which is about $200 or so more than the prices at gun shows.

Peters has a decent selection. They sometimes have some gems in the consignment area. The range is great in the sense that they are probably the only range within a reasonable driving distance that will allow you to rapid fire. The downside is, you pretty much need a respirator because they have to worst vetilation system ever...and during the summer, if it's really hot outside, it'll be really hot on the range.

I'll never again buy a gun from Midwest Ordnance. The few times I've been in their shop, I got that Sanford & Son vibe. The real reason I won't buy from there is that I picked up an SKS from them at a gun show a few years back.....then I got a visit from the ATF a few months later. Seems they were selling SKS's with folding stocks and detachable mags during the assault weapon ban. They got pinched and a lot of people that bought SKS's from them got visits.

Firearm Exchange is a good place to go. They have a really good selection, and pretty good prices. I bought my PLR-16 from them. They were the only dealer that had it in stock......heck, they were the only dealer that even knew what it was. They stock the cool stuff that other gun stores have no clue about. If only they were closer. One thing though.....if you're going there on a weekend, call ahead and find out if they're going to be at a show that weekend or else you'll get there and there will be like 8 guns on display. They just about pack up their entire inventory and take it to shows (at least, that's how it was the last time I went there (Only been there twice). They were at the Gibraltor show that weekend.

These are just my observations from visiting the different gun shops around here.

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Wow!

Ten Ring, I am new to this forum and this is a great post!

Good job!

This is a list I have used before: Some duplicates and a few new ones as well...

http://cpltrainer.com/gunlist.html

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Old 02-04-2007, 09:38   #36
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Wessels in Livonia? Is that Shooters Service or another place I've never heard of?
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Old 02-04-2007, 15:13   #37
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I previously posted on this subject and always thought that Williams in davidson was an alright place to go until my last trip there. With no one in their shop and five sales people present I was treated as I had a desease and the group just had an attitude with and about me because ???? I interupted their conversation or what. I was trying to return a product clearly marked as theirs, until I purchased it, but I had no reciept so I was sort of laughed out of the store. I really didn't appreciate the child like attitude I was shown.I'am 66 years old-- I didn't deserve that reaction.
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Old 02-07-2007, 09:55   #38
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I don't see Top Gun listed here. I have always been treated well there.
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Old 02-07-2007, 13:27   #39
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I don't see Top Gun listed here. I have always been treated well there.
I have too, except when I got yelled at for double taps and mozambiques. I'd understand them yelling at me if I wasn't shooting well, but center mass of my target was a ragged hole, and not one shot to the head was outside the silhouette.

Haven't been back since, but I don't live down that way and it needs to be a special trip to make it down there.

I can't comment on the prices, maybe someone can fill that in?
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Old 02-11-2007, 10:48   #40
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I hate Total firearms, and am glad to see I am nota alone. Ive been there a few times and had about 50% good bad experiences. If you ask me a retail store should have 99% positive experience.
There prices are insanely high in their store they were selling a sigma for 560!!!!
About a year ago I went in their to purchase my first handgun, I knew very little about them and was looking for some help. I was looking at a .380 and called it a 38 and the guy just makes me feel like a dumb*** while I admit it waws a little funny I didnt know this, if I am trying to sell a product the last thing i want to do is make the customer feel uncomfortable.
My biggest beef is with the turd that was running the range one afternoon. The guy is the most arrogant ahole I have ever met. (ex cop he says)
I showed up an 45 minutes before they closed with 2 friends, one of whom has only fired my 22 one other time.
So even though the website clearly says you can buy range time in half hour blocks, he makes me pay for 2 full hours for 45 minutes because there is only 2 to a lane. He then humiliates my friends on there shooting styles and tells the one who has limited shooting experiences that the slide was going to cut his hand off.
After all of this he spends 20 minutes talking about the shooting lessons he offers and brags about how good his accuracy is from 25 yards.

I WILL NEVER DO ANY BUSINESS WITH TOTAL FIREARMS AS LONG AS I LIVE B/C of that guy!!!

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Old 02-20-2007, 15:06   #41
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The Firing Line has a beautiful range. Staff has always been friendly to me.
The Firing Line has great pricing and a very knowledgable staff. Its owned and operated by retired and active Westland PD. Some of whom are SWAT. The offer a wide variety of training also.
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Wessels in Livonia?
Wessels is in Warren....at 9 mile and Ryan.

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A couple of stores I've had great luck with are

Safes Unlimited
3361 Orchard lake road
Keego Harbar, MI. 48320
248-738-1500
Great prices, but only has a few guns in stock. One to two days to get most.


Top Gun
16725 Racho
Taylor, MI. 48180
734-282-8470

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A couple of stores I've had great luck with are

Safes Unlimited

Great prices, but only has a few guns in stock. One to two days to get most.
That was the only place I was able to find corbon .380 DPX within an hour's drive.

That said, I remember the prices being a bit ridiculous.
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Old 03-13-2007, 22:58   #45
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What's up ten ring!...been a while.

I'm sad to hear you had a bad expirience at Top Gun. They allow rapid fire of two to three shots.....anyone who yelled at you for doing double taps didn't know what they were talking about. You can double tap to your hearts content as long as your not shooting up the ceiling..........which I know you weren't.

By the way today was my last day working there so I'm officially non-bias..haha

Anyways good to see a familiar face around here after my extended absence from GT
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[B]Recommended by others:[*]Johnson's
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These guys are awsome! Sometimes I will swing by Cabela's in Dundee. If I find somthing there(in the way of firearms) that I like I will call up Johnson's, let them know what I am looking at, and they will tell me what they can do better.
FWIW any time Cabela's takes in a smithing order they send the firearm to Johnson's.
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Old 04-19-2007, 19:53   #47
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+1 for Michi-GUN

I have bought these guns from them at very good prices:

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Top notch everytime. He has thrown in a coffee mug, free rounds, a free grip, free lube, etc. HIGHLY recommended. Later,
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Farr & Sons
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Niles, MI

Great gunsmith services with a nice selection of guns. Owners are extremely knowledgeable and service oriented. Since I'm an out of stater I won't be able to buy, but they will do all of my work.
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I hate Total firearms, and am glad to see I am nota alone. Ive been there a few times and had about 50% good bad experiences. If you ask me a retail store should have 99% positive experience.
There prices are insanely high in their store they were selling a sigma for 560!!!!
About a year ago I went in their to purchase my first handgun, I knew very little about them and was looking for some help. I was looking at a .380 and called it a 38 and the guy just makes me feel like a dumb*** while I admit it waws a little funny I didnt know this, if I am trying to sell a product the last thing i want to do is make the customer feel uncomfortable.
My biggest beef is with the turd that was running the range one afternoon. The guy is the most arrogant ahole I have ever met. (ex cop he says)
I showed up an 45 minutes before they closed with 2 friends, one of whom has only fired my 22 one other time.
So even though the website clearly says you can buy range time in half hour blocks, he makes me pay for 2 full hours for 45 minutes because there is only 2 to a lane. He then humiliates my friends on there shooting styles and tells the one who has limited shooting experiences that the slide was going to cut his hand off.
After all of this he spends 20 minutes talking about the shooting lessons he offers and brags about how good his accuracy is from 25 yards.

I WILL NEVER DO ANY BUSINESS WITH TOTAL FIREARMS AS LONG AS I LIVE B/C of that guy!!!
I don't know squat but I met this guy when I visited Total. I am a woman and I figured I was treated as I was for that reason. I know a jerk when I see them and this guy sure was. Now, normally, I put a guy like that down a peg or two from the get go. Instead, I just put up with him. I also paid for the full hour of range time... when I only wanted to test a G-19 and shot only 10 rounds!

I could have used the full hour... just for fun, but I didn't want to stay there. I just had a bad feeling about the place. Besides, they guy wanted me to sign up for $75 an hour private lessons. I can assure you.... this woman knows a thing or two about characters... no way was I going to go out of my way to spend alone time with him.

No one has mentioned Schupbachs in Jackson. After I bought my gun from Michigan Police Equipment Co. in Lansing, I went there for some ammunition and other supplies. I made a comment to them that I had bought the Glock but never had them show me how to clean it and I was a newby. I said I read on line how to do it, read the manual but still couldn't do it. The man had me bring my gun in and spent over 30 minutes with me helping me learn how to take the slide off. (I thought I had lack of hand strength but after he lubed it... I had no trouble.) No charge! Now, THAT is a Gentleman with a capital "G".

BTW, Michigan Police Equipment seems like good folks. I got lost getting there and bought the gun just as they were closing and had barely enough time to drive to work. So, I don't have anything bad to say about them.

The 15 year old Glock 19 was under $300. I have no idea if that is a good price or not. It came with a transport approved box, two trigger locks (one for the box) and two 15 round magazines. It also had an after market rubber grip and night sights.
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Gun world was mentioned in the OP. I can attest that this store is great. Jason is knowledgable and very friendly. His prices aren't rock bottom, but they're good and I support small businesses. So, this is my official thumbs up for Gun World.
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