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12-25-2005, 14:51
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anti roast beef
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problems with new monitor...
i just got a dell E176FP monitor for christmas and it's really irritating me. for some reason the screen is very jittery. i've tried changing the refresh rate, the resolution, uninstalling and reinstalling the drivers, different power sorces, etc. it works fine on our computer upstairs (windows 98 upstairs, i'm running windows xp).
what else can i try? i called dell tech support but since it's not the actual monitor, and i because i'm using a gateway desktop, they won't help. i can't call gateway because i no longer have access to their tech support. i've also searched the dell forums and tried everything there.
i'm assuming two things. either the breaker i'm on in my room sucks and there some interference or my computer just doesn't like this monitor for some reason.
what else can i try?
- ashley
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12-25-2005, 15:08
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Bubblehead
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Re: problems with new monitor...
Unshielded speakers can do that to a monitor - happened to me. I just had to relocate the speakers away from the monitor.
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Originally posted by ashley
i just got a dell E176FP monitor for christmas and it's really irritating me. for some reason the screen is very jittery. i've tried changing the refresh rate, the resolution, uninstalling and reinstalling the drivers, different power sorces, etc. it works fine on our computer upstairs (windows 98 upstairs, i'm running windows xp).
what else can i try? i called dell tech support but since it's not the actual monitor, and i because i'm using a gateway desktop, they won't help. i can't call gateway because i no longer have access to their tech support. i've also searched the dell forums and tried everything there.
i'm assuming two things. either the breaker i'm on in my room sucks and there some interference or my computer just doesn't like this monitor for some reason.
what else can i try?
- ashley
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12-25-2005, 15:12
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anti roast beef
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Re: Re: problems with new monitor...
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Originally posted by Froggy_131
Unshielded speakers can do that to a monitor - happened to me. I just had to relocate the speakers away from the monitor.
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han't thought of that but i just unplugged them and no luck. the tv is unplugged too.
- ashley
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12-25-2005, 15:24
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Senior Member
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Is it a LCD monitor (flat screen) or a CRT (regular old tube) monitor?
If it's a regular old monitor, you might want to move it to a new location and try it again.
A friend had the same problem and it turned out that on the other side of the wall from his monitor was a panel of circuit breakers. The 60 Hz frequency of the power lines caused a weird jittery, waving effect on the screen.
If it's LCD, then I've go no freakin' idea what could cause that.
NN
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12-25-2005, 15:26
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Re: Re: Re: problems with new monitor...
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Originally posted by ashley
han't thought of that but i just unplugged them and no luck. the tv is unplugged too.
- ashley
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You might want to try moving them. It's the permanent magnet in the speakers that causes the screen to mess up, so unplugging won't fix it. I've never seen a speaker cause a screen to "jitter" usually it just messes up the colors.
NN
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12-25-2005, 15:30
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do a lil' dance
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Anything else near it that could be generating noise? Other common culprits are desk fans, GSM cell phones, fluorescent lights, high draw appliances on the same circuit, such as microwaves and fridges, can also cause problems. Assuming you're not using the integrated video, try swapping video cards to rule that out. Have you tried using the monitor from the upstairs computer? Does it do that same thing?
Last edited by funbob; 12-25-2005 at 15:33..
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12-25-2005, 15:42
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anti roast beef
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it's an LCD.
my cell phone isn't the culprit. there are some flourescent lights, will i actually have to take them out? i've tried just turning them off.
i just moved the speakers and tv about 10 feet away, still nothing. how far should i be moving these things? this is insane.
the fridge is upstairs, on the same circut, and the washer and dry are about 15-18 feet away on a completely different circut.
ohh and for whatever reason it gets worse when i actually use my mouse.
- ashley
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12-25-2005, 15:44
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do a lil' dance
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oh, if it's an LCD, than none of that applies. They aren't affected by RF noise the way CRT's are. We just made you move a bunch of stuff for nothing ;f. I have no clue what could be causing the problem. My guess is some sort of problem with the video hardware in that computer.
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12-25-2005, 15:45
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anti roast beef
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Quote:
Originally posted by funbob
Anything else near it that could be generating noise? Other common culprits are desk fans, GSM cell phones, fluorescent lights, high draw appliances on the same circuit, such as microwaves and fridges, can also cause problems. Assuming you're not using the integrated video, try swapping video cards to rule that out. Have you tried using the monitor from the upstairs computer? Does it do that same thing?
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i haven't tried switching video cards, i have no idea where they are located and what i would have to do to get my stepdads to work on my computer.
i had a CRT and had no problems with it.
- ashley
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12-25-2005, 15:45
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anti roast beef
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Quote:
Originally posted by funbob
oh, if it's an LCD, than none of that applies. They aren't affected by RF noise the way CRT's are. I have no clue what could be causing the problem. My guess is some sort of problem with the video hardware in that computer.
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lol, okay.
- ashley
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12-25-2005, 15:46
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do a lil' dance
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What are the model numbers of the computers in question?
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12-25-2005, 15:56
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anti roast beef
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Quote:
Originally posted by funbob
What are the model numbers of the computers in question?
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the computer is from gateway. i'm not sure exactly what you are looking for but the sticker on the back says ATXSTF FED performance 800. i got it in 2000 and there's been a lot of changes to it but i've never touched the video card. the monitor is a dell E176FP.
- ashley
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12-25-2005, 16:01
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What version of Windows?98?2000?ME?XP?
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12-25-2005, 16:02
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anti roast beef
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Originally posted by Washington,D.C.
What version of Windows?98?2000?ME?XP?
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ohh i'm running xp and upstairs where the thing works were running 98.
- ashley
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12-25-2005, 16:03
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That model PC has the Intel (r) 82815 Graphics Controller unless a seperate video card came with it.
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12-25-2005, 16:05
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Okay so the problem is with Windows XP?Home or Pro?Should be fairly easy to sort out now.
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12-25-2005, 16:09
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anti roast beef
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Quote:
Originally posted by Washington,D.C.
That model PC has the Intel (r) 82815 Graphics Controller unless a seperate video card came with it.
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i have no idea if a seperate video card came with it but when i check the display that's what it says (Intel (r) 82815 Graphics Controller).
- ashley
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12-25-2005, 16:09
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anti roast beef
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Quote:
Originally posted by Washington,D.C.
Okay so the problem is with Windows XP?Home or Pro?Should be fairly easy to sort out now.
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home.
- ashley
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12-25-2005, 16:11
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12-25-2005, 16:12
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do a lil' dance
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Does the monitor plug directly into the back of the computer or does it plug in towards the bottom where the expansion cards would go? My research indicates this line of PC's was available with a TNT2 M64 video card, which was not a particularly good card, even back in its day. Flickering was not an uncommon problem with this card and I'm currently looking for fixes.
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12-25-2005, 16:16
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The TNT Nvidia cards were common in some Gateways.The fix for them is revert to older drivers.Despite what Nvidia says the newer drivers do not work properly with the TNT cards.
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12-25-2005, 16:19
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Funbob the TNT cards are normally good.Their 3d was better than old ATI's but their 2d wasn't quite as nice(clear).Don't use drivers newer than the 4x.xx series.Can even go older.The 5x.xxx Nvidia do not work properly with the TNT cards but Windows update will try to tell you to install the newer drivers.
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12-25-2005, 16:22
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do a lil' dance
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If you wouldn't mind posting a screenshot similar to this so we could tell for sure what type of video hardware you have, that'd be great.
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12-25-2005, 16:35
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anti roast beef
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okay.
i dl the new driver and it still doesn't work. there's the orginal driver in the device manager and i'd assume the new (with the yellow ! mark).
- ashley
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12-25-2005, 16:38
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anti roast beef
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ohh and the one with the yellow exclamation mark says this when i check the properties.
- ashley
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