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01-20-2006, 08:01
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Production gun
Anyone know of a good, not expensive production gun with good parts availability here in the Phil?
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01-20-2006, 08:19
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01-20-2006, 08:28
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Glock 17. The unit cost went down considerably to 34-35T as of the last gunshow. Availability of parts is fair enough. Anyway, it seldom breaks so spare parts should be the least concern. Accessories are also available. But in PD you wont be needing a lot of them.
CZ75, Berreta 92, Tanfoglio, to name a few, are all good PD guns, but I dont have much experience w/ them.
When to be used in sports, the usual criteria is the shooters' preference, what and how he feels when handling a certain pistol. This very important. The price takes the backseat.
My 2 cents.
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01-20-2006, 18:50
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I'd go for the NZ85 and have the trigger pull smoothened.  I've shot an NZ75 while I was in the Philippines, and it's very much like the Tanfoglio and the CZ.
Darwin and Pepe308 already have their NZ85. Ask Deenoh for the price.
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Last edited by isuzu; 01-20-2006 at 18:54..
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01-20-2006, 19:09
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Interested in the NZ85
Hello fellow BOGs!
I'm interested in the NZ75 and/or NZ85. To all friends out there who has this/these goodies please share me your views. My concerns are: it's handling, general finish, accuracy, reliability, availability of parts, tolerance to reloads, after accessories like mags, etc. How close can it get to the real thing?
I have a hunch this one is much prettier than the NP-28 which I am also looking into.
I'd like to thank you all in advance.
Dagz of Bohol
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01-20-2006, 19:32
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The NZ 75/85 pistols are generally good guns. Handling is very much similar to the CZ 75/85. General finish is like a Chinese-made gun (if you've seen a Norinco 1911, it's more like that). Lots of toolmarks, but who cares. As long as it shoots well and is combat-accurate, it will do its job.
As for aftermarket parts, I know for sure CZ magazines (Mec-Gar) would fit the NZs. It could also handle reloads well. Honestly, I would change the springs (recoil/firing/hammer) to Wolff Springs to have a better trigger pull, and longevity of the recoil and firing pin springs. However, springs, no matter what the brand need to be changed depending on how many rounds the gun manufacturer recommends they would be replaced.
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01-20-2006, 23:05
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My dad has a CZ75 compact which I could use for PD but it would be at a disadvantage against full size pistols because of their longer slide and higher capacity. How is the DA pull on the NZ pistols? Are the differences between the NZ75/85 similar to their CZ counterparts like the 85 is ambidextrous, etc, etc.?
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01-21-2006, 05:53
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The NZ75B already has an ambi thumb safety. Compared to the Norinco 1911 the finish is better. I haven't tried the trigger yet since the display at the gunshow had zip-ties. I suppose you have to wait for darwin and pepe to give their reviews once they have their units.
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01-21-2006, 08:30
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Yang NZ ba nasa approved Prod list na?
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01-21-2006, 08:37
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Noypi
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Check out Darwin's thread on his NZ85,its still around here somewhere. The only thing he hasn't done yet is firing the pistol or at least that's what I know. Haven't got mine, I just bought it the recent gunshow, give immediate feedback once I fired it.
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01-21-2006, 08:41
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Quote:
Originally posted by mc_oliver
Yang NZ ba nasa approved Prod list na?
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Yup! Norinco: NC 226, NZ 75, NZ 85, NP 22, NP 34
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01-22-2006, 21:34
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You can't go wrong with a Glock 17
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01-23-2006, 07:27
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IMO, Glock 17, CZ 75 and NZ 75. But try them out first and choose the one that you are more comfortable with. Better yet, join the BOGs in one of their Sunday plinking sessions and you'll get to try a lot of PD guns if you want.
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01-23-2006, 18:27
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Anyone who's shot an NZ extensively?
I think the the orig post asked about a prod gun , mejo bugbog yan
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