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Old 08-27-2014, 06:44   #1
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How important is it to carry a spare bolt and firing pin

I just ordered a spare bolt and firing pin along with a Magpul Moe+ grip the holds a bolt and firing pin.
Also what other parts should I keep on hand?
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Old 08-27-2014, 06:48   #2
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Old 08-27-2014, 06:55   #3
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I've had my Colt since early 80's, never needed or done anything but clean and shoot it, I don't carry anything but ammo. I'm not going into battle so I don't see the need, YMMV. Actually, if I were afraid of it breaking, I'd carry something different.

I don't keep a small parts kit/bag for my Glocks, either.
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Old 08-27-2014, 07:47   #5
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The most common items that you'll need will be the small detent pins and springs, the cam pin and cotter pin...perhaps a buffer detent and spring. Those are the things that most commonly get "sproinged" when you work on the gun. I'd also consider a new extractor, extractor pin and spring.

I've seen guns in the Army with cracked locking lugs on the bolt but they are few and far between. Far more common is to have GI's loose parts when they work on their rifles.

You'll want to use some electricians tape on that Magpul insert as it won't hold the bolt or pin by itself. Needs a little help otherwise it rattles and eventually just bangs around loose inside the grip.
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Old 08-27-2014, 08:01   #6
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For grip core/stock add ins I'd go with a small bottle of lube, batteries for your optic (if necessary), a broke off small toothbrush or travel toothbrush, and a boresnake... in that order.

Broken bolts typically happen for 2 reasons- inferior composition or improper construction (these are your cheap bolts) which occurs randomly and early on, and extreme wear/ past serviceable life which occurs later on (and which can be prevented by proper PMCS).

AR firing pins are pretty robust and are usually only rendered unserviceable by using them for something you shouldn't...
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Old 08-27-2014, 08:07   #7
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For under 200 bucks, it is cheap insurance on the parts most likely to fail on the rifle.
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Old 08-27-2014, 11:14   #8
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I just ordered a spare bolt and firing pin along with a Magpul Moe+ grip the holds a bolt and firing pin.
Also what other parts should I keep on hand?
For what use case? Going to war, to keep in your parts bin, or to carry to the range with you?

It's rare for me to take my ARs out for anything other than a trip to the range, so I don't generally carry anything parts-wise with me other than maybe a spare battery for my optic in the range bag. My thought is that if I break something on one of my guns, I'll just put it up and shoot my other guns for the rest of my time on the range. I never go with less than 2 guns to shoot unless it's for a GSSF competition and sometimes not even then.

I've built 4 ARs for myself, have a 5th in progress, and a 6th stripped lower hanging out in the bottom of the safe. I have ordered a bunch of "spare parts" over the years for those times when I lose a spring or detent while building a lower. As such, I have a tackle box full of AR parts, triggers, grips, etc. I wouldn't mind having a spare complete BCG hanging around, but never feel like spending the money.
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For what use case? Going to war, to keep in your parts bin, or to carry to the range with you?

Considering the parts shortage that happened a while back and a bolt could not be found for less than unobtanium money on gun broker, I would say keeping a spare bolt is a cheap investment, lest you be without a spare meaning a down rifle for a month or longer if it decides to go snafu during one of these media/politician caused panic buys.

You have built 5 ar's but cannot afford to buy a 169 dollar BCG?
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-B...up-auto-mp.htm

But you already have four spare BCG's you can only use one at a time

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Considering the parts shortage that happened a while back and a bolt could not be found for less than unobtanium money on gun broker, I would say keeping a spare bolt is a cheap investment, lest you be without a spare meaning a down rifle for a month or longer if it decides to go snafu during one of these media/politician caused panic buys
I agree, and that's why I'd like to have a spare complete BCG in my parts bin. I had one for a while, then it got used on my brother's build, then when he replaced it for me, it immediately was used in a new build for myself. My expensive spare parts always seem to turn into new builds.

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You have built 5 ar's but cannot afford to buy a 169 dollar BCG?
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-B...up-auto-mp.htm
"Afford" is a term that I use loosely. I just haven't pulled the trigger, so to speak. A coworker has 7 of them and only 4 builds planned. Hoping to snag a FN or BCM BCG from him for cheap.

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But you already have four spare BCG's you can only use one at a time
Also true.
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But like I said, you have four spares already. You can only carry one rifle.... a spare is good for someone with one rifle. Like DW
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But like I said, you have four spares already. You can only carry one rifle.... a spare is good for someone with one rifle. Like DW
A spare to "carry with you" or a "spare for the parts bin" was my question for the OP. I personally don't see a lot of value in carrying spare parts for a range gun or having spare parts stored in the grip or stock for a gun outside of some rare situations. Those situations, IMO, would be things like being deployed, hunting in a remote area, or doing some survivalist exercises in a remote area.
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Considering the parts shortage that happened a while back and a bolt could not be found for less than unobtanium money on gun broker, I would say keeping a spare bolt is a cheap investment, lest you be without a spare meaning a down rifle for a month or longer if it decides to go snafu during one of these media/politician caused panic buys.

You have built 5 ar's but cannot afford to buy a 169 dollar BCG?
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-B...up-auto-mp.htm

But you already have four spare BCG's you can only use one at a time
Yep, 2016 is getting closer.
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Dalton, you aren't fighting ISIS.
Yet. The Muslims and jihadists are infiltrating just about all aspects of our society.
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Yet. The Muslims and jihadists are infiltrating just about all aspects of our society.
Yep, just look at the half white house.
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I have an entire spare rifle, and enough spares to form a rifle, with a receiver set. I use my AR's alot in training though.
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Old 08-28-2014, 07:51   #17
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I just carry a extra firing pin.'08.
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Old 08-28-2014, 14:11   #18
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I don't have spare parts in my grips any more, really. For awhile I kept a complete bolt, firing pin retaining pin, and cam pin. But I decided that was very unlikely to prove useful so I use that space for other items.

Lube, a few rounds of ammo, earplugs, pair of batteries, paperwork, generally.
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Stuff in the grip gets dirty, lost, and rattles around. That said, I'd rather have a small bottle of CLP and a CATM4 tool than spare parts. I shoot a lot of majors and was the RM for the Noveske match this past weekend. One broken bolt, about 500 rounds on it, a known POC in my opinion, but marketed well. Other than that, there were no failures that a few squirts of lube could not cure. As the RM, I get to see all the "claimed" broken guns.

Do I carry an enhanced bolt in the bag? Yes, and a bolt rebuild kit. After over 300K rounds through my personal ARs, still have never had a part break unexpectedly. But I have rebuilt and or replaced at least a dozen in other people ARs, usually due to inferior parts.
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My upper is a BCM so I bought a BCM spare bolt
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