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Old 02-16-2006, 19:47   #1
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Leaving For Ots In 10 Days!!!!

I'm leaving for OTS in Alabama in 10 days. Any advice from fellow Air Force people would be greatly appreciated. I will be a Developmental Engineer when I get out (Electrical). Any advice and recommendations would be of great help.
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Old 02-16-2006, 20:44   #2
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Good luck and welcome! Let's see, advice for going to OTS at Maxwell AFB.

Bring golf clubs.

Learn the way to the Air War College Library.

Bring golf clubs.

DO NOT swim in the river. Way too many gators.

Keep your eyes and ears open. You will get a ton of information constantly.

Watch your gig line.

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Old 02-16-2006, 21:38   #3
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What's my gig line?
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Old 02-17-2006, 03:53   #4
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What's my gig line?
I haven't heard that term used in a long time.

It's the line from your zipper, up through all the buttons on your shirt to your collar of your uniform.
IT MUST BE A STRAIGHT LINE!

Good luck. AF basic is easy......
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Old 02-17-2006, 10:09   #5
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Best piece of advice... act like you got a purpose. Don't walk, march or SMU with your head down looking at the ground.

The active duty Air Force isn't as "easy" as it used to be. We've had to toughen up quite a bit since we're pulling a lot of the Army's weight in Iraq due to their lack of manning.
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I shouldn't have used the term "easy", I apologize.
No disrespect intended certainly.
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Old 02-17-2006, 18:16   #7
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I will definitely watch my gig line then.
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Old 02-18-2006, 03:38   #8
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gig line

the other use of the term was similar to keeping yourself squared away. I agree with decguns. Have a purpose. Don't let anyone kid you, the USAF is a real military service.

In my earlier post I was just goofing around about the golf clubs because Maxwell AFB has 2 very nice courses. I used to play them as often as possible before I retired.
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I guess I've been out of loop since '85, but when did they start having OTS on a base other than Lackland?

Best of luck to the original poster!!
Thank you in advance for your service, Sir.
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Re: Leaving For Ots In 10 Days!!!!

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I'm leaving for OTS in Alabama in 10 days. Any advice from fellow Air Force people would be greatly appreciated. I will be a Developmental Engineer when I get out (Electrical). Any advice and recommendations would be of great help.
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Old 02-18-2006, 13:51   #11
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Thanks for all the advice guys. I have every intention of treating the enlisted's well. I have the utmost respect for them. As far as OTS being at Maxwell, I'm not sure when it changed to there. I'm assuming in the last 10 years. I've talked to many people who were surprised it was in Alabama. I'm just glad I will be out of there in May....I hate hot weather.

Does anyone have any advice on what clothing to bring...civilian, athletic, shoes, etc???
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Thanks for all the advice guys. I have every intention of treating the enlisted's well. I have the utmost respect for them. As far as OTS being at Maxwell, I'm not sure when it changed to there. I'm assuming in the last 10 years. I've talked to many people who were surprised it was in Alabama. I'm just glad I will be out of there in May....I hate hot weather.

Does anyone have any advice on what clothing to bring...civilian, athletic, shoes, etc???
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Old 02-19-2006, 18:58   #13
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Congrats!

Congratulations on being accepted to OTS! I was commisioned through OTS back in the summer of 2004 and I'm currently active duty AF. I'm a 62E1E so I think I can give you a bit of advice about OTS.

When I asked the recruiter for advice on what clothes to bring and what exactly I needed he was incredibly unhelpful. When I told him that I had been to airforceots.com and what they were telling me he cut me off and said that I shouldn't have gone to the web page and not to listen to what they told me there.

Go to airforceots.com and find out what others are saying. But don't do it once you're at OTS or they will come down HARD on you.

The problem is that us non-priors going through OTS have a steep learning curve. That's why I don't feel bad about giving you advice. Listen to the prior enlisted and heed their advice. They will be a stabilizing force in your flight.

So on to the advice:

1. From here until you leave for Maxwell start exercising and eating well and getting to sleep at 11pm and waking up at 5am. You'll do this a lot while you're there and you should train your body to do this in a less stressful environment.

2. If at all possible drive your car to OTS. Flying in to Atlanta and then taking a bus to Montgomery will get you into the area around midnight (even later if the bus driver gets lost on the way there like he did for us) and you wills tart off on the wrong foot.

3. Get a laptop and a small printer and some extra black ink cartridges and some reams of paper. You'll be doing a lot of writing and printing. There are two beds / dorm and two desks / dorm. One of the desks has a computer and there is a printer in each building that is a pain in the butt to use. Don't plan on being the guy with the computer at his desk. And learn how to format documents in MS Word before you get there. Also, have a 512MB+ thumbdrive. And bring music. But no porn or they will come down HARD on you. I brought a NES emulator and we played nintendo games on their huge projection TV's - near the end you get some perks.

4. Get there as early as possible on your report date. The day you arrive there will be a lot to do and if you arrive late then you won't get through it all and it will become a HUGE hassle over the next few days and set you off on the wrong foot. You don't want to be behind your flight mates and you don't want to draw attention to yourself. Getting in after midnight like we did wasn't good.

5. I don't think you can get any of the military uniform items just yet becuase you aren't active duty. Check out AFI 36-2903 before you go. You can buy botts and leather luster them. I tried polishing my new boots that I bought at OTS for the first 2 weeks but after getting a demerit EVERY day for not having my boots properly polished I said to hell with it and leather lustered them. You have enough stress there to be worrying about polishing boots for 30 min. every day. Oh, purchase a pair of khaki pants and shorts, a brown belt, and brown shoes. This will make up a part of your Priviledge Uniform and you can't buy these once you get there. Well, they sell these items at the BX but as an OT, you aren't allowed to go there unless you are in your priviledge uniform. Hilarious huh? And the last thing you want to do is ask your upper classman for a favor... So besides those items, you will only need at most 2 additional sets of civilian attire in addition to the clothes on your back. You will not wear civilian attire until week 12 so there is no point in bringing much clothes.. Bring a good pair of running shoes - you have PT every week day. And stop drinking soda pop now. On the 2d day there you will buy all the uniform items you will need unless you were like one kid in my flight (another 62E1E) who didn't buy his woodland BDU's! If he had made it through OTS it would have been funny but he dropped out after 2 weeks. Oh, you can use your current white socks, black socks, and underwear - OTS doesn't make you buy them there.

6. Don't bring golf clubs - you aren't an officer yet! :-) If you want to golf at Maxwell, do it when you go back for ASBC.

7. Don't do anything stupid. At OTS they tear you down for 6 weeks and then let you build yourself back up - some people after being repressed for 6 weeks will go to the extreme and do dumb things once they are given some freedom. OTS commanders have zero tolerance for stupid behavior and you will get kicked out. 2 people in my flight of 14 were kicked out for doing stupid things one weekend in Montgomery. Don't do anything stupid! And don't draw attention to yourself!

8. Bring cash - at least $100 plus a credit card to buy your uniform and misc. items. Oh, you only get about 1 ft^3 for personal effects in your dorm room so be smart about what you bring.

I think I've run out of thoughts for now. If you have any more questions feel free to ask. Oh, take a shower the night youa rrive there because you probably won't have toime to take another one for a few says. I took a shower Tuesday and couldn't take one again until Friday evening (at a time that turned into a tornado drill - FUN!!!).
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Old 02-19-2006, 21:38   #14
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Hey tryingtosteal,

Thanks for all the great advice. That is very helpful. As far as money for clothing, I heard about some sort of Air Force credit card you can get that will pay for most of it. Is this true? Also, do you know if you can bring a cell phone? Can you email to the outside world at all? Also, I can wear contacts, right?

Also, I guess since I will have the same position as you....can you tell me a little bit about being a 62E1E? Where are you stationed? What is your position like? Do you do a lot of traveling? Did you get any technical training after OTS?

Thanks again for all the info. It is a great help.
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Old 02-19-2006, 22:01   #15
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Okay, one more quick question. Do I get small arms training...M-16?? 9mm??
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Old 02-19-2006, 22:17   #16
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There's a Military Star Card that you can sign up for right before you run the Military Clothing Store Gauntlet on day 2. This card won't charge you interest or require any payments until you graduate from OTS but you do have to pay the balance back. If I were you, I'd just use my personal CC because it would be easier.

You can bring a cell phone but you can't use it on the OTS campus. You can keep it in the luggage storage area in your building. If you are given weekend priviledges (weeks 4+ maybe if you're good) you can go off the OTS campus or off base then you can use your phone.

They give you an email acount that you can use on the govt computers in your room and on the academic building computers. They block other email sites like juno and yahoo. Keep a list of the email addresses you want to write to and then send them an email from the govt email address.

About the 62E1E world? Within the 62E AFSC, there are a few different types of jobs you can have. Test engineer, research lab stuff, work in a program office acquiring new technologies, etc. I'm stationed at Wright-Patterson, Ohio in a program office. I do a lot of travel, I've been to Deleware, Georgia, New Mexico, Alabama, Florida, Germany, Afghanistan, Kyrgyzstan, and some other European countries while on leave. And I've been in the AF less than 2 years.

No matter where your first duty station is, you'll take a 2 week class at Wright-Patterson to learn about the acquisition process.

Oh, and at OTS you spend a day on the range firing a Beretta 9mm - no glocks :-)

You can wear contacts. You don't have time to put them in in the morning before PT and I slept in mine - bad idea I know but I didn't have glasses. If you have sports glasses you can wear them at PT and then switch in to contacts before breakfast.
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On the firing range I was put in between two women. The one on the right to me couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. The range master yelled cease fire after time was up for that particualr set. Then four seconds later I hear BAMMM!!!!!!!!!!!! and I look over and she's fired her pistol! The range master got all pissed at her.

Then the woman to the left of me kept pointing her Beretta at my back. The range master walked up to her and said "If you point that pistol at his back one more time you will leave this range immmediately!" I'm like "Sir, kick her ass out of here NOW!" Scary place OTS....
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On the firing range I was put in between two women. The one on the right to me couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. The range master yelled cease fire after time was up for that particualr set. Then four seconds later I hear BAMMM!!!!!!!!!!!! and I look over and she's fired her pistol! The range master got all pissed at her.

Then the woman to the left of me kept pointing her Beretta at my back. The range master walked up to her and said "If you point that pistol at his back one more time you will leave this range immmediately!" I'm like "Sir, kick her ass out of here NOW!" Scary place OTS....
That's funny. Well, more dangerous I guess. So no M-16's?? Anyway, so it sounds like you get to do a lot of traveling. What did you do in Afghanistan and Kyrgyzstan? How long were you over there? Thanks for the info on contacts also. I just got a new prescription for the contacts you can leave in for 30 days. I figured it would help out. Do you work with a lot of private contractors or is it mainly other Air Force / miltary people?
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Old 02-21-2006, 22:59   #19
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Yeah, no M-16s. Are you going to trust a 2d LT wanna-be with an M-16? :-) I was in the Far East doing...ummm...mission support I'll call it.

Good thinking on the contacts. Oh, also you might want to buy a squeegee for drying the shower stall. They have them there but its about 60 seconds quicker to have your own and its worth it.

I mostly work with Air Force Civilians (GS-13s) and what they call 'in house contractors'. These people work side by side with us. I also work with the prime contractor who is doing the upgrades to the a/c. Look up ASC at WPAFB, ESC at Hanscom, or AAC at Eglin for more info - they got a good dose of info there. 62E1Es don't work with very many enlisted but really that depends on your job.

Enjoy OTS and lint rolling your floor... :-)

I remember one night I woke up at 2am and sat on the edge of my bed in the modified attention position. I wondered why all the lights were off, class was over, nobody was there, and nobody woke me to tell me that class was over - I thought I'd get in trouble for sleeping in class. After about 30 seconds of this I realized what time it was and where I was and crawled back onto my covers (you don't sleep under your covers by the way).
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Old 02-26-2006, 19:33   #20
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Hey tryingtosteal,

Do you know if there are flights that go from Wright Patterson to Offutt in Omaha, NE at all? If so, are they on a somewhat frequent basis?
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