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Old 03-28-2006, 13:05   #1
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Just wanted to post this, which I received from a
good friend who is retired Army:

Following is a letter which a good friend, Ret'd Army MG Vern Lewis, asked me to pass on to my associates. I think he has a great idea, and if you agree, hope you will pass it on to your retired mil contacts.

I gathered some 16 of my old military friends who agreed to sponsor a movement for Veterans to salute rather than place their hands over their heart when honoring the flag, fallen comrades, and/or the country. I have some from each of the four principal services. Three of them were former Vice Chiefs or Assistant Commandants of their services, and several were former CINC's.

We refer to saluting when we do the pledge to the flag, when the National Colors pass or are presented, when the National Anthem or honors are played, or when taps are played and firing squads or guns render honors.

We got MOAA magazine to ask veterans what they preferred, hand over the heart or saluting. When last I looked, some 583 veteran respondents had voted 81% in favor of the salute. In addition, my email address was in the questionnaire and I've had about 150 responses, with all but a dozen or so in favor of the salute. Obviously an overwhelming majority of the veterans want to salute.

There are no regulations telling us veterans what we can and can't do in this matter. If we decide we want to salute, who will dare to tell us "no"?

It is a matter of personal choice. We've earned the right to render a salute. Now the challenge is to get the word out. I believe the unit and branch associations are the best way. The commanders of the American Legion and VFW never answered my emails, presuming they even got them. If we can get this started it will take on a life of its own. Those who object can continue the hand over the heart thing. Gradually the custom will change, as well it should.

Just imagine thousands of fans saluting at NFL, MBA, and Major League Baseball games when the National Anthem is played. It will telegraph a message to all others of how many have served this country in the Armed Forces---it will be a positive and patriotic message.

You can help by putting the word out in your organizations, which are made up of patriots like you and me. Thanks, my friend.

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Old 03-28-2006, 23:20   #2
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exellent idea!
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Old 03-29-2006, 15:29   #3
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exellent idea!
Ditto. I'm in...
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Old 03-29-2006, 20:46   #4
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good idea.

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Old 03-30-2006, 16:54   #5
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Good idea; I'm in too.
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Old 04-04-2006, 04:53   #6
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It's a good idea, although placing the right hand over the heart is exactly what active duty soldiers are required to do when in civilian clothes (AR 600-25, Table C-1) upon hearing the National Anthem.
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Old 04-21-2006, 09:33   #7
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Originally posted by CHCB
It's a good idea, although placing the right hand over the heart is exactly what active duty soldiers are required to do when in civilian clothes (AR 600-25, Table C-1) upon hearing the National Anthem.
As I indicated in the other thread on this subject, I still snap one almost out of reflex and have never had an objection. The National Anthem, at a ball game for instance, usually gets my hand over my heart. But if a color-guard walks by the reflex takes over, and if I had a long-gun in my hands I'd probably be at Present Arms as well...

That said, CHCB has the correct protocol. I hold the same regard for someone that will place hand over heart as well. The list of people, especially in public settings nowadays, who will do neither is sadly long.

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Old 04-21-2006, 12:29   #8
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+1, I miss saluting the Flag.

But, I absolutely refuse to salute an officer, ever again......
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