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Old 03-28-2006, 13:07   #1
Ed Ely
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Saluting???

Just wanted to post this, which I received from a
good friend who is retired Army:

Following is a letter which a good friend, Ret'd Army MG Vern Lewis, asked me to pass on to my associates. I think he has a great idea, and if you agree, hope you will pass it on to your retired mil contacts.

I gathered some 16 of my old military friends who agreed to sponsor a movement for Veterans to salute rather than place their hands over their heart when honoring the flag, fallen comrades, and/or the country. I have some from each of the four principal services. Three of them were former Vice Chiefs or Assistant Commandants of their services, and several were former CINC's.

We refer to saluting when we do the pledge to the flag, when the National Colors pass or are presented, when the National Anthem or honors are played, or when taps are played and firing squads or guns render honors.

We got MOAA magazine to ask veterans what they preferred, hand over the heart or saluting. When last I looked, some 583 veteran respondents had voted 81% in favor of the salute. In addition, my email address was in the questionnaire and I've had about 150 responses, with all but a dozen or so in favor of the salute. Obviously an overwhelming majority of the veterans want to salute.

There are no regulations telling us veterans what we can and can't do in this matter. If we decide we want to salute, who will dare to tell us "no"?

It is a matter of personal choice. We've earned the right to render a salute. Now the challenge is to get the word out. I believe the unit and branch associations are the best way. The commanders of the American Legion and VFW never answered my emails, presuming they even got them. If we can get this started it will take on a life of its own. Those who object can continue the hand over the heart thing. Gradually the custom will change, as well it should.

Just imagine thousands of fans saluting at NFL, MBA, and Major League Baseball games when the National Anthem is played. It will telegraph a message to all others of how many have served this country in the Armed Forces---it will be a positive and patriotic message.

You can help by putting the word out in your organizations, which are made up of patriots like you and me. Thanks, my friend.

Ed
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Old 03-28-2006, 16:48   #2
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Basic problem is Naval Service (including Marines) do not salute unless wearing a cover (hat to Air Force and Army vets) and do not wear covers indoors unless under arms.

Other than that I don't have a problem with saluting when wearing a cover outdoors.

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Old 03-28-2006, 16:52   #3
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Basic problem is Naval Service (including Marines) do not salute unless wearing a cover (hat to Air Force and Army vets) and do not wear covers indoors unless under arms.

Other than that I don't have a problem with saluting when wearing a cover outdoors.

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I was thinking the same thing as I read that.
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Old 03-28-2006, 17:56   #4
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It's my understanding you render a salute when in uniform.

When you aren't in uniform, you put your hand over your heart.
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Old 03-28-2006, 21:45   #5
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I like the idea.

I also Agree with Angel.

There are some traditions that must be maintained.

However.

"Under arms"
"In Uniform"
"Wearing a Cover"

Now that we are NOT active, we do NOT have a Uniform.

"Under arms" requires a Cover.
Both are easily accomodated.

If the issue is on the Squidly side, remind them that they usually run for a building 2 min. before Colors IN or OUT of uniform, and generally don't render the honors unless cornered.


My Local S.O. is supported by a bunch of us Crazy Reserves, and we took the step to include "Saluting all colors and standards, not cased" Cover or not, when doing duty at Public events.

I reckon if it's acceptable to the doggys, Squids, airdales and civvies in that unit, it should fly overall.

(Though it does Pain me every time I see a Doggy in Civvies Salute brass in Uniform, and remember well getting downgraded by a Maggot of a Doggie Sgt. for not Saluting while out of Uniform on an Army base.)

Overall, why not.
Us Jarheads can just always remember to have an EGA Hat pin on the Resistol or USMC Cap if we have to.

Just thoughts.
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