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05-07-2006, 06:10
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Hollow Points
Pang police and military lang ba talaga?
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05-07-2006, 07:13
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Nope. Most of the police and especially our military personnel here in the Phils. use fmj's because that's their issued ammo.
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05-07-2006, 08:14
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+1.
Just make sure your pistol will like it before using it as defensive rounds.
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05-07-2006, 10:36
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Police Departments issue hollow points to prevent over penetration during gunfights. More often than always, we confront one BG at a time.
The idea is to kill more than one enemy with one bullet hence military ball.
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05-07-2006, 21:48
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mga sir di po ba sya bawal satin sa pinas may mga nagsasabi kasi na its not allowed daw for non armed personnel .
sa states po kasi ata prohibited sya for civilian tama po ba ako tnx
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05-08-2006, 01:17
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Hollow points ang carry/home defence ammo ko.
PTT/ PTC doesnt specify kung anong klase ng bala ang pwede mong dalin o gamitin , (no of rounds lang di ba).
Ideal kase hollow point coz nag ma mush room yung dulo when it hits something prevents over penetration (sabi nga ni Sir JT)di tatagos ng dinding and less chance of ricochet(banda)
pag nag mushroom effective and stopping power , bulagta(bagsak) agad tatamaan.
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05-08-2006, 04:09
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pwede rin cgro sa civilian kasi binebentahan naman e
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05-08-2006, 06:25
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let say, BG nasa luob ng kotse, tatagos ba ang JHP sa windshield o sa pintuan ng kotse?
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05-08-2006, 08:14
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tagos kung point blank , but the trajectory might be affected.
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05-08-2006, 20:52
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hollow point
ok tnx sa reply sirs helps a lot.
ako sir pareho carry ko hollow point tapos fmj sal-itan sila para kung tao me stoping power kung mga car at least me lulusot ng mayos na isa tnx po
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05-09-2006, 00:17
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mga sir,
ano po ang magandang local na hollow point ammo?
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05-09-2006, 00:51
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hollowpoint ammo
o nga sir anu nga po ba marekomend nyo mahal kasi mga imported sir
help po from the experts tnx in advance sirs
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05-09-2006, 04:40
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Quote:
Originally posted by magister
mga sir,
ano po ang magandang local na hollow point ammo?
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hahn lang yata nakita kong may local HP , kaso manipis yung brass di na pwede ipa reload. Try stronghand also may HP din sila.
Get imported the silver tip (Winchesters, Corbons).di naman maluluma yun.
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05-09-2006, 08:34
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look for PMC starfire JHP, very good reviews for the price, cost around 25-29 bukos a pop, im carrying their PMC el dorado line in .40, expanded to 0.89, http://stevespages.com/page8f40sw.html,
in my .45s, its corbon powerball or golden sabers for me.
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05-09-2006, 22:35
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Quote:
Originally posted by magister
mga sir,
ano po ang magandang local na hollow point ammo?
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sa stronghand sila ang nagreload using imported brass and hornady xtp heads so parang imported na rin pero mas mura. imho buy at least 15 rounds na imported hallow point para puno yung isang mag. i use the remington golden saber as carry load for my glock 17.
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05-18-2006, 05:21
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has anyone used the tactical edge brand jhp ammo by twin pines? price is reasonable. box says they use hornady bullets. ok na kaya to for home defense? wala akong makita na federal or pmc sa mcs kanina e.
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05-18-2006, 07:40
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pmc, meron sa trust trade, i was there kanina
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05-18-2006, 13:02
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HP on Glock 23
mga sir .40 caliber na hollow point hindi ma dumihin sa barrel ng glock, kasi ako pinaka-iiwasan ko residue sa barrel ko.
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05-19-2006, 01:15
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Quote:
Originally posted by MR_BIG
pmc, meron sa trust trade, i was there kanina
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hi sir! wala kasing stock ng 9mm na pmc both in mcs and gale. puro 40 at 45 cal lang. would you know of any other dealer that stocks the pmc? thanks.
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05-19-2006, 21:28
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Sa PB dionisio... May Winchester Ranger (imported) pa ata for 45cal, 40cal n 9mm... Mga P60 ata each. I wouldnt mind spending a bit on my self defense ammo. Besides, i think its better to use brand new ammo than reload for self defense. Just try at least 50 rounds of your intended ammo para sure na wala problema sa baril mo. After doing so, i dont think you'd be changing your carry ammo too often.
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05-23-2006, 22:52
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of course not. even civilians can buy/use hollow points.
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05-30-2006, 00:17
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With my 45, Ive been carrying it with JHPs and even the glasers, so JHP for civilians are ok. Btw, I just wanted to ask, are the reloaded xtp ammo from stronghand or other locally loaded JHP ammos good for defense ammo? Has anyone really compared its velocity with those loaded direct from winchester factory if the velocities have been identical at the very least?
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05-31-2006, 19:44
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Re: hollow point
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Originally posted by choi_tan2000
ok tnx sa reply sirs helps a lot.
ako sir pareho carry ko hollow point tapos fmj sal-itan sila para kung tao me stoping power kung mga car at least me lulusot ng mayos na isa tnx po
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been doing this on my old carry P13 pero a friend of mine said that it's better keeping one mag of JHP and one mag of FMJ instead. can anyone comment on this? tnx.
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05-31-2006, 20:33
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My personal opinion only, all your mags should have the same kind of ammo. This is for consistency of shot. I wouldnt want to feel a "do-re-mi" when Im firing. For defense, I dont see the point of having FMJ as personal defense load actually. A good JHP should be good enough.
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05-31-2006, 20:45
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Re: Re: hollow point
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Originally posted by sundancekid
been doing this on my old carry P13 pero a friend of mine said that it's better keeping one mag of JHP and one mag of FMJ instead. can anyone comment on this? tnx.
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I think his main purpose is to shoot through a barrier by using the fmj ammo. I don't really think it's a good idea.
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