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Old 06-22-2006, 23:12   #1
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Sponsering someone on Base

Ok this could go in General Non-Glocking but figure folks here would be a better group to ask/confirm my feelings. (or set me strait)

I have a family member who is (retiring) from Air Force RESEARVE. She was active duty during Desert Storm and researve since then (never deployed outside of CONUS)
Well she wants me to drive some 4hrs each way for retirement (mainly I feel) to sponser some relatives to get them on base. Thing is I take sponsering someone seriously. I feel I am VOUCHING for their behavior and am responsible for them while on base. The one person is a psycho. She does NOT know how to drive near speed limit/refuses to wear safety belt (talked a Dr into writing perscription so she does not have to wear one) (course she never wore one before she injured her back just now has excuse) She carries a loaded firearm (without permit) everywhere in past/etc/etc/etc.
So I am not going because I am too busy (ok really because I refuse to help her get on base KNOWING what I know.

Am I out of line? Is (assisting) someone's access to a base not a big deal? If I was going/helped could it come back and bite me?

Finally what do you figure are odds that a civilian (relatives brother) can get on base with no title for his car? He insists he will NOT bring his title. "what if I loose it" He has current proof of insurance/DL/and he said he would make a photocopy of title. I was always told bring the TITLE. (worst thing is he does not know how to make it easier for security to consider bending rules slightly) He gets demanding too quicly so I told him to plan to park off base and have to get someone to come pick him up.
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Old 06-23-2006, 08:33   #2
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1- Why can't she sponsor them on base? you don't need to be AD to do that.

2- If you are not wlling to be held accountable for their behavior, then don't do it. Like you said, you are vouching for them. You are responsible for them. Now yeah, if they get busted doing something stupid it could be as simple as them getting escorted off base, or it could wind up with you having to answer some questions before the man. Basically, if you wouldn't do it on bae, don't bring someone on base who you think might do it.

3- I've never needed a title to get a sticker for my truck. Just a mil ID, driveres license, registration and proof of insurance. For a civilian the mil ID used is yours.

This sounds like a headache waiting to happen. I would try and keep my distace from the whole thing.
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Old 06-23-2006, 12:11   #3
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What Jackb said (and I'm current AD Security Forces).

I tell people here, we write a pass for your friend, and you're the sponsor, if we jack them up, we jack YOU up.... or at least come questioning.

Makes them think twice about who they're bringing on base.
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Old 06-23-2006, 21:47   #4
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Like I said I skipped it. Too many possible headaches. Would be fun to see the base again. Figure I will head up there soon anyway when I can do as I please. (some paperwork that needs updating/maybe update wills/etc)
Sad thing is I don't know people up there who work Security. I had permission to bring firearm on base (unloaded/cased/declared/etc) before. The people I knew have transferred away (and different folks in charge) IMO not worth getting thing set up again. (and I don't think ND allows MN carry permit.) I had NH and others and one of them (forget which one) allowed it in past.
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